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1/22/2013 9:54:25 PM
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Dr. Neil DeGrasse on Religion among scientists.
Watch this and start at 1:07:30
This is for all the people who think that it is impossible for science and religion to coexist. For someone to believe and accept both. Take what he says to heart damn it. So atheists drop the idea that all theists are dumb, they aren't. Not all atheists are that smart either for that matter.
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2 通の返信I'd just like to point out that while he makes that point, he also makes the reverse point. [quote]“I want to put on the table, not why 85% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences reject God, I want to know why 15% of the National Academy don’t.” [/quote]
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3 通の返信[quote]o atheists drop the idea that all theists are dumb, they aren't.[/quote] I don't recall the majority of atheists ever assuming this. [quote]Not all atheists are that smart either for that matter.[/quote] Never said we were.
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1 返信I am a man of science and faith. Always have been and always will. I don't find it hard to reconcile them both. It is perhaps easier for me and people of my particular Christan faith to accept this because how we've come to understand the role of the Bible. The Catholic church generally follows that Bible isn't meant to be taken literally, but rather there are some "Divine Accommodations" that cannot be accounted for. The "Divine Accommodation" basically means that Bible's purpose is to convey God's love and story to use, not to be used as a historical or scientific explination for God's mystery. To quote someone who spoke this better that I, "The Bible is to be interpreted in view of the fact that it is an accommodation of Divine truths to human minds: God the infinite communicating with man the finite... We must be careful, then, not to push accommodating language about God and His nature to literal extremes. God does not have feathers and wings (e.g., Psalms 17:8); nor is He our literal Father in the same sense our earthly father is." -John Calvin
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10 通の返信I'm both a Muslim and a Paleontologist, but at my core I am a deist. Checkmate, theist/atheist trolls.
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5 通の返信I was watching another speech he gave just yesterday on YouTube. I haven't watched this one yet but the other one was about how the greatest scientists in history have always evoked religion and God when and only when they reach the limits of their knowledge.
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2 通の返信Anyone who thinks they know everything about the universe is an idiot. In a universe of such mystery and size who is to say what is or isn't possible.
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2 通の返信Catにより編集済み: 1/23/2013 4:07:20 PMAs an atheist, I never gauged somebody's intelligence based on their religious beliefs, and I do understand that a religious scientist can make amazing progress for humanity. The thing is, most of these scientists tend to be very moderate, and even though their very life work might reveal things that contradict religious scripture, they still hold onto those beliefs. I will say that fundamentalism (focusing more on the Abrahamic religions) probably isn't compatible with science, because if you take most religious scripture at face value, it simply doesn't mix well with how the universe actually works.
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2 通の返信I have never seen the problem with science and religion. Certain things taught by science does conflict with some religious teachings, evolution being a hot topic, but that is small aspects. Still, science is a process. Most of the things science has once believed has been discovered to be wrong, but that is part of the process. We thin X, find out that X is wrong, but that a small portion of it is true and build off of that. Heck, most of what science teaches today is probably wrong and we won't find out for a hundred years. Yet, from these fallacies we find some truth and continue to expand our knowledge of the physical universe. How does understanding the universe conflict with religion?
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1 返信Neil DeGrasse. I've seen atheists use his arguments against theism and theists use his arguments against atheist. He is a truly brilliant agnostic, isn't he?
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4 通の返信I don't think you understand the point he is making. He is not endorsing religion among scientists, he is saying the number of religious scientists should be zero. While he does encourage taking a more tactful approach to the subject than Dawkins ([url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_2xGIwQfik]even tells Dawkins directly[/url]), he often belittles religious ideas ([url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oxTMUTOz0w]my fave[/url]) in his own talks, and calls any scientist content with religion explanations of the physical world [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5dSyT50Cs8]useless[/url].
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4 通の返信HurtfulTurkeyにより編集済み: 1/22/2013 10:12:19 PM
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9 通の返信Vicexにより編集済み: 1/22/2013 10:01:43 PMI'm just going to leave this here... Edit: Unfair and disrespectful? Ha, not at all.
