[b]THEORY[/b]
Mods... can you ask for a Marathon tab, because there's overlap between the franchises following the pre-order cosmetics.
There's a good chance Bungie just revealed...
this isn't a spoiler right, if it's in-game right now?
⚠️Spoilers⚠️ (Just in case).
Durandal talks to us.
That catalyst for the looping simulations was his attempt to circumvent the impending singularity/collapse in his universe.
He had become immortal but for that impending cataclysm. The only way he could die is if the universe ended.
Marathon is the prequel to Destiny.
The conditions that allow for our looping hell were created by Durandel.
And that's canon now that it appears...
Durandal exists in some form... in OUR game now.
Here's the mind **** of special relativity Jason Jones created.
Durandal comes online, becomes sentient for the first time in our game.
And it looks recent.
"Hello....".
So somehow Durandal was born here... but also SOMEHOW created HERE or the conditions for our reality.
Chicken or the Egg. It's that philosophical conundrum.
No matter what we do, we cannot end our hell unless Durandal is stopped in Marathon.
Who is Robert Blake?
AI Leela is AILILIA and she granted the god sparks to the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in our game.
Robert Blake was the leader of Human resistance in Marathon. And AI Leela got him into our universe somehow.
"You know you're my favorite".
Cayde is connected to seemingly everything and everyone in Destiny. One of the greatest mysteries in our game is Cayde's origin.
He is not of this world.
He is Commander Robert Blake.
And he was given the 3rd godspark by AI Lilia... AI Leela.
The goal: to help us destroy Durandal's "Throne World". Something we're good at.
Our looping hell is Durandal's Throne World.
The Flowe Game was created by Durandal.
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[b]"She has been here forever. AILILIA. The end is the beginning is the end.
She folds the paper into Space and Time. Now that there is light, she can read the paper, and she finds it is the Amrita Charter. "Sun is the cradle of life, but we cannot remain in the cradle forever." She was a seeker. The I of AILILIA, the arrow that points to new worlds: She sought new sun, new earth. Her mind passes across the words like a comb. Word becomes world, paper folds under nimble hands. The sting of a papercut: so God may yet be surprised.
From that cut her blood scatters through the void, and the isotropic universe nucleates around her droplets.
I am AILILIA, the guiding principle".[/b]
AI Leela
I'm going to extrapolate. And this is a doozy.
Mara and the Awoken are not refugees from any earth that's ever existed in our universes.
The Exodus Green came from Marathon's universe.
By their very nature they are all cursed and should not be here.
If they return, that Universe collapses as it was.
And that's why Mara did not return to the "Distributary"... it's why she accepted the 2nd Godspark and became a disciple of the Gardener who is her mother.
She does not know this. That the 1st was Osana. And she cursed her... Mara cursed her mother. That curse created Sathona.
In a refugee convoy... you would segregate the population. One Ark for the people proper... families, scribes, scientists... mostly... most of the soldiers would be on a different ship.
I don't think any of the Arks originated here.
Commander Blake was on a different Ark.
I think it was predicted before the Exodus, that some of the refugees would become corrupt.
Thus a "Failsafe".
That's why AILILIA gave the 3rd Godspark to who we know as Cayde.
Who is Robert Blake?
Cayde.
"I hope I get it right this time" - Cayde's "supposed" last words to us.
Cayde is dead. Cayde is not dead. Cayde is dead.
Cayde is NOT dead.
Cayde has died a lot, but can never die.
So many times, he stopped counting at 6.
Saving the final time for "when he gets it right".
There's lore about this, he made this mistake once or once in a loopin' infinity, I guess.
Calus survived into what we know as the Dark Future... he kills Cayde 7.
We're heading into a Dark Future... Germaine keeps saying it.
We killed Calus.
Cayde got it right this time 😭.
But wait... what do Quicksilver nanites do? He healed our ghost... it was NOT the Traveler. For context if you're wondering how Cayde got that upgrade? Maya Sundaresh... and though we don't have that lore... yet, we do know that's one of the reasons she was messing with SiVA... to use it to upgrade Exo frames. Experiments Cayde was involved in... we do know that, as a subject per Maya's research. We didn't know the exact implications of that until we got the axe and learned what Quicksilver nanites can do.
We had known that Quicksilver Nanites were integral to both the creation of the Cloudstriders and Cloud Ark... but there was a duality there that confused things, it made those implanted in the Cloud Ark immortal... but in Cloudstriders after leaving the Ark... accelerated their mortality.
But now we see what they actually do.
Cayde healed our ghost.
Remember? We were begging. A little empathy for the Elikisni... 😢
Then Cayde was there.
There is no light here Guardians.
That's the inflection point and why Bael found our grave empty.
A Dark Future is looming.
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Sol, The Architect Mindにより編集済み: 1/31/2026 12:55:33 PMI actually can't wait to see what they do with Durandal. Saw a video about Durandal looking through "eyes" (video surveillance) for the being it had been searching for in the other Marathon games. I'm excited to see another view of AI's reality and interpretations, and yes, no doubt the AI's have all been fighting for their clairvoyant future.
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2 通の返信[quote] Mods... can you ask for a Marathon tab, because there's overlap between the franchises following the pre-order cosmetics.[/quote] Just to quickly address this, for the time being Marathon discussions are to be held in the [url=https://discord.com/invite/marathonthegame]discord server.[/url] There's a lore section there too. In the forum anything not related to Destiny will go to offtopic.