As the player count goes down the sweat goes up. I'm ashamed to admit I played pvp all day today and I saw a lot of BS going on. It has been said "when the fun stops, stop" and I wish I could apply that to myself as I swore a lot today.

You’re like the third person that has spelled trials wrong. You must be smoking that good stuff 🤡

It’s intense. Almost every 6v6 game I play feels like I joined a “scrims clan.” It’s no chill just adrenaline pumping sweat fest

[quote]What's up with the control balancing these days? Every match feels like a Trails/Competitive game with how these stacks/solos play. And is this game so dead that I find the same sweats 80% of the time? They use scummy two tap builds on Hunter or melee cheese warlock builds, or my absolute favorite; rose with 20K kills! Not that we can even get rose anymore, or even beat it with the lack luster guns we are left with sunsetting previous sources for guns.[/quote] It’s bad but then again it’s been bad for a really long time. I have my theories on how it got bad but I’ll get banned if I say them

Pff a nother one who complains about his free content. So exhausting.

lol what are you expecting with the low low players numbers we have now and especially in pvp . PvP is having on but the wheels will fall off . The cheating is rampant now on console and pc …some of cheating is getting so subtle you would have no clue …also individuals normalising it thier head to be ok to do . Another how long will the meta go on for its getting tedious now . Always handcannons …they have to be mats , market , Redrix lol and now immortal …again . I’m expecting zero from Bungie about PvP so I’m happy to play till the wheels do fall off .

I give up on destiny pvp. Bungie tinkered and twisted too many knobs, now every mode feels like a disadvantage or predetermined outcomes

All of the casual players are gone and the few that remain are being pushed out by the skill gap.