I don’t think it’s inherently unique to Destiny, but rather to peoples’ social skills in general, that create these obtuse gaming interactions. Example given from last night: I was going for EQ clears for the dark crystal (which still eludes me lol) and the first team I joined up with seemed to be doing fine. However, after second encounter, one dude clearly doesn’t know where to go; the third blazes on past to the next jump puzzle. I backtrack to where you slide under the tank and am talking to the lost guy. I can hear him chatting with people in the room the whole time; he’s got to hear me too, right? Nope. I start shooting from below to signal to him. After a few minutes, he finally gets it. I help lead him to the final encounter, where our third is just emoting at the door. Needless to say, said lost guy didn’t pay attention to any mechanics, barely contributed to boss damage, and the fireteam disbanded after a couple of wipes. All while I can hear dude talking the whole damn time. I joined up with a new team for a fresh run, couple of dudes who were on comms, and we actually got a flawless clear after a few attempts. I guess what I’m trying to say is -blam!- the meta- people are just too afraid to talk to other human beings, and it says more about society than it does a gaming community. Apologies if I lost the point. Two completely different back to back experiences last night. Help people when they need help, but damn, people gotta communicate.

Years later and I'm still a blueberry lol. I find it exceedingly difficult to find anyone with the patience to teach an aging gamer with neurological issues.

Being snobby is one thing. But you're not entitled to anyone's time either. It's lfg, people are in there to just complete the activity as fast and painless as possible. Side note. Controverse doesn't show full damage on the activity completion or wipe screen

While destiny has always had players like that it's becoming a lot more common among casual players. Copy youtube DPS build of the week and suddenly they are highly experienced and know better. Constantly get LFGs who tell me they got some great DPS build for Sanctified Mind and I politely tell them they should just use this and that depending on class, I get the "Yeah yeah" talking over me...only for them to pull 6k damage vs my 90k. You should find that blueberry who got kicked and offer them another run. I will gladly join in to give them a better experience.

Tbh outside of high end activities destiny has never, at least to me in my multi year multi thousand hours, been a particularly social game outside of lfg activities, almost no communication in strikes even to just shoot the -blam!-, I think I've seen a conversation happening in the tower maybe a dozen times. Some of my favorite memories are kidnapping a kindergardian off of Io back when I was doing whisper carries, or a random guy in the tower asked for help with master nightfalls back when that was endgame content, but those were outliers to a degree that in retrospect is kind of shocking.

I can’t get off, my meta horse is way too high and I’m afraid of heights :) As someone who used to raid non stop during D1 I personally don’t understand all the requirements ppl have to join their team these day, to me it makes no sense. I get ppl want to get it over quick but the more ppl you teach the larger the pool of ppl you have to draw from when you want to raid. We always made a point of trying to get at least two ppl on the fireteam that had no idea what they were doing, we’d teach them and then stick them on our friend list, having a friends list full of ppl you actually taught makes finding a raid group much faster after awhile.

This is all due to the crap way bungo treats new raids and dungeons. They are built as esports not for run anymore.

Oh the irony, minus the meta.

[quote]All you snobby guardians out there seem to forget, you were a know nothing blueberry at some point too.[/quote] I still randomly launch Cosmodrone from old instinct And then I nuke the walker in the divide to help the new lights, refuse to elaborate, then leave