I hope renegades does something to repopulate pvp a little bit again. As I feel that the biggest issues rn is the low player numbers lead to laggy matches, since it matches you with people from literally anywhere.
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It won't unfortunately, because levelling is very important to PvP population - we've always assumed PvP was only as high as it was because bungie funneled players in there for levelling & things like catalysts & quests & when lightfall had no levelling, as expected PvP & gambit numbers both fell through the floor with a 65-70% dropoff almost instantly. Minimum daily numbers would be 300km this was all time lows, then in lightfall we hit 120k, then we went as low as 65k, it's now around 90k but never recovered & won't. Renegades has no levelling so won't push people to crucible & there's almost nothing else they can do.
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Unfortunately playing 100+ matches of control will get boring. Trials is notorious to casuals for being sweaty confetti. Bungie decided to add cutting edge, which restricts gear and build usage. Got a weapon type you like but not in the right element? Unlucky son. Pvp didnt get any new maps in 2 years..I remember SRL populated the crucible a bit more back in the day because it was a fun casual mode
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Awtiiiにより編集済み: 11/20/2025 10:10:24 PMI remember them adding sbmm to SRL to make races closer , but it was very strict & suddenly all 6 guys would be 1-2 secs apart rather than the earlier 30 sec gaps. Because of how bungie code it, it hit PvP too & made mm in crucible impossible, bungie were on Xmas break & 6 weeks later returned & said people couldn't matchmake because everyone was in srl. Many years later when asked about bringing back srl, bungie said it wasn't worth it because when it was here nobody played it. Fun memories, tried to tell people back then & no one listened :(