Personally I think Bungie making the radical change to make everything complex and difficult that did alot of the damage before this exodus of streamers. Bungie cast out the casual player in favour of a smaller minority of players and it backfired in there face. Everything has become a test to see where they can put difficulty into the game even when it isnt even needed. Take the new halloween event. Its a holiday event yet still we have to have locked loadouts. It doesnt even make sense. The holliday stuff is supposed to be a break from the endgame stuff but instead of separating the two they just added an annoyance to make people have to think before they que. Take the new raids. Teaching them takes hours and even if you know how to do them the majority of players don't have 8 hours to learn a raid and run against a wall of confusing mechanics to get bottom tier subpar loot. Not only this but then the next time most players will have to run with completely new people causing them to have to relearn how other people play to adapt to them. Without steady teams and constantly good players raids become more luck in the lfg then actually doing the content(y personal opinion) Even dungeons are getting ridiculous with the absurd mechanics and once again lfg being a roll of the dice. Bungie is designing all this new content (raids,dungeons) with this false belief that every single player has 5 other players they will run the raid with every week. They design raids with worlds first runs in mind rather than the overall population of the game which leads to what i believe to be far less runs and completions of newer content than older content. I havent even seen the new rocket launcher being used anywhere for anything. It would be interesting to see the actual number of players that have it. Bungie shot themselves in the foot I believe and due to thier design philsophy I can almost guarantee this game won't recover. Skeleton crew of not this game has been struggling of a while (ever since final shape) and I honestly believe it won't recover unless Bungie makes drastic changes in relation to difficulty and the designs of thier content, not to easy, but to be more casual friendly so the casual players have a reason to come back.

Until they pull the plug and kick me out it’s ain’t dead. Content creators are scavengers riding the outrage machine to get views. Nothing new under the sun. For people playing the game and watching them, like I do, why let their experience be yours? For people playing not watching them, then it does not really matters. For people not playing the game and watching them, you aren’t playing the game anyway so who cares.

It's dead dead dead Beyond dead Elvis dead

I admire your optimism. Let’s look at the situation realistically: Destiny 2 is effectively on life support — we’re seeing bug fixes and small events, but not much else. That suggests most of the main development teams have shifted to working on Marathon. If Bungie doesn’t have the staff to keep both games fully supported, we’re stuck in this feast-or-famine cycle where neither title truly thrives. And as we’ve seen, players lose patience with that very quickly. This situation puts constant pressure on the devs to maintain 100% uptime — to do more with less. Over time, that burns out creativity. Something eventually has to give — whether it’s the publisher, the devs, or the players. Think of playing a long term game, like Destiny, as a long-term relationship: if one side’s needs aren’t being met, they’ll start looking elsewhere for what’s missing.

OP: Nicely done! 👍 Like many, I love Destiny but I have no warm fuzzies for all those 🤡🤥🤑-blam!- drove it into the ground…starting from D1Y1…driven by hubris and greed. Many have since scuttled away… Imho…Joe B (probably) fell on his sword (QED); therefore, I tend to exclude him from those mentioned above. There’s a new team at the helm now…it’s going to take some time to right this broken, floundering vessel…I hope [i]they make it so!…[/i]🖖 That is all. Chin up! 👻 Ease Springs! 🫡

I feel you man. I watched this ship take off, and now I’m watching it sink. I barely log in anymore, what’s the point. All the competent people were either fired, quit or got pushed to marathon. Bungie killed destiny. My only joy is knowing that when marathon releases, it’s going to fall flat. But something tells me bungie doesn’t care. It is what it is

No, no, sir, it’s not dead. It’s resting!