Well you only got half of my point. To clarify, I am saying to remove the anticheat because the cheater issue has not changed at all, hence its removal can't do worse. Cheaters are already rampant within Destiny, it takes not many searches about it to make this evident. Bungie doesn't exactly have to do a Linux-specific version either, many tools within Linux already exist to allow for Windows application and games to be ran on Linux, such as Wine, Bottles and Proton. For proof I recently downloaded and made Starcraft 2, a game which hasn't been done with Linux in mind, run flawlessly. And although there many distros of Linux, the Destiny version will run accross near all distros thanks to centralised installers such as Steam, FlatPak, and many more. It isn't much about asking Bungie to support another platform but rather lift this far too extreme policy of banning players just because they are not on Windows under a pretext of "limiting cheater influx" when it is already bad enough. As an IT trained person, the security of destiny and fight against cheaters cannot be automated as cheaters will evolve and adapt, as such a dedicated team at bungie must handle the cheater issue regardless.

[quote]To clarify, I am saying to remove the anticheat because the cheater issue has not changed at all, hence its removal can't do worse.[/quote]It can always be worse. Currently there are players banned, however it does not catch them all and due to f2p they just comeback. Opening the flood gates to appease less than 1 percent of a gaming os community is not good business. [quote]Bungie doesn't exactly have to do a Linux-specific version either, many tools within Linux already exist to allow for Windows application and games to be ran on Linux, such as Wine, Bottles and Proton. For proof I recently downloaded and made Starcraft 2, a game which hasn't been done with Linux in mind, run flawlessly.[/quote]Linux specific is not the point. When something breaks, who do those players come to? I have several linux boxes and know that answers vary for bugs based on versions of the os you are running and there are reasons most linux software is open source, as they rely on the community to fix stuff. [quote]It isn't much about asking Bungie to support another platform but rather lift this far too extreme policy of banning players just because they are not on Windows under a pretext of "limiting cheater influx" when it is already bad enough.[/quote]It is a closed source, propritary app. Because there are some cheaters, does not negate the fact that anticheat does work, just needs to be better. removing it will not make it better. [quote]As an IT trained person, the security of destiny and fight against cheaters cannot be automated as cheaters will evolve and adapt, as such a dedicated team at bungie must handle the cheater issue regardless.[/quote]And as an IT trained person, who is paying for the dedicated team to handle linux cheats? When anticheat can be much more easily bypassed due to the openness of the OS? The very reasons the fringe love linux are the reasons that most closed source apps dont support it. At the end of the day, the actual costs of supporting another platform, one that is unlikely to net much if any additional income just doesnt make sense. 4-5 percent of all desktops at best use linux in any capacity, and a fraction of them are gamers, and a fraction of that fraction play destiny, and a fraction of that fraction's fraction would be new purchases. Again, just my opinion, the resources would be by far better used elsewhere.

The cheater issue can be worse but considering the ever present cheater issue even since the introduction of BattlEye, and especially since Desert Perpetual Contest, it is safe to assume that the Free-to-Play aspect isn't the root if the issue as those cheaters are prominent in game-modes which requires purchases. Opening the gates to the Linux gaming community doesn't mean that if something breaks its up to the Linux community to fix, one simply as to look at all the games you can run on Linux, even if they aren't natively supported to realise that there aren't severe downside to Bungie allowing Linux user in. Cheat makers don't care whether something is proprietary or open-source, they will crack it and make cheat tools regardless. There is no need for a specific team to handle cheater cases on Linux, that is laughable even, you just need a security team which handles all report of cheating and harming behavior. As said previously, there is no additional cost to Bungie if they just at the minimum remove the absurd strict account ban because we wanted to play Destiny from Linux. If they want to deploy resources to ensure comptability, fine! But the linux community has tools to achieve it without Bungie's resources. I plead of you to see reason that account banning people for being on something that isn't Windows is not good looks, even less to defend keeping an anticheat who has not made any real impact to prevent cheaters and cheatmakers from bypassing it. Bungie can keep and maybe even gain players by opening up to Linux, cutting BattlEye out and using the free-up expanse of BattlEye into more personel for looking out for the fair play and experience of players rather.

[quote]I plead of you to see reason that account banning people for being on something that isn't Windows is not good looks, even less to defend keeping an anticheat who has not made any real impact to prevent cheaters and cheatmakers from bypassing it.[/quote]Fact is we do not know the impact of battleye, I can tell you it does in fact ban players, I have seen countless posts from said players in the help section. Banning players who cirumvent the rules, looks fine. Like it or not, no linux is a rule. I can see why YOU dont like it, but I look past the wants and look at the reality of the cost of doing so. [quote]Bungie can keep and maybe even gain players by opening up to Linux, [/quote] gains would be insignificant. Linux gaming does not have the numbers to make any actual impact. [quote]Cheat makers don't care whether something is proprietary or open-source, they will crack it and make cheat tools regardless.[/quote] They dont, but OS makes it much easier to crack and circumvent detection. Instead of removing barriers to cheat, we should be advocating adding them. No matter how you look at it, removing one of the game's anticheat will not reduce cheating. Adding an OS that can more easily be configured to circumvent cheat detections will not reduce cheating. If you really want to advocate for Linux, using reduction in cheating is not the way.

I am not advocating for reducing anti-cheat solution but rather laying bare the fact that the anti-cheat software industry is directly clashing with the cheat software industry and as made evident over many decades now is that the cheat software industry is always pulling ahead no mater what. I do advocate for reducing cheaters but the effect of BattlEye since 2021 has clearly not been what we were promised either. Perhaps using it more as a detection tool that then forwards to a security team which also receive player reports would prove more effective to this end. I am a clean player, never cheated, never will, will always earn my loot the intended way but I cannot approve of banning non-windows user not even because they cheated, but because they wanted to play a game, hell I even stream on twitch and post the playbacks on youtube. I do see your point that you doubt BattlEye is as ineffective as I believe it is, and it is fine, but wouldn't you then align unto lifting this ridiculous unfair ban of linux user whilst keeping BattlEye at the very least?