Why they are staying silent? It could be for a number of reasons. * It was unexpected for Bungie to get so criticized for EoF. * The new boss must settle in. Maybe some internal re-organization is ongoing. * Near all focus are on Marathon, the Destiny 2 team focus on some bugfixing for the current release and bughunting/finishing touches on Renegades. So there are not much to say regarding Destiny. * Bungie wants to see how Marathon fares as well as Renegades. If both are a success - fine. If things go really bad, we'll might hear something about that. EoF was a "new" type of Destiny that Bungie invested time and money in. Unfortunately it was not what most gamers wanted. Destiny is not dead yet, but it is in a bad state. There is no easy and quick solution to fix Destinys current state. So we will have to see how it goes.

They aren't silent. If you look at the TWABs, Bungie is talking about things they're doing to make the game better. Tomorrow there's going to be a massive overhaul to the Portal and difficulty scaling, they've been working on it for a month now, they've been talking about it, the problem is that there aren't enough people paying attention to notice. (And who can blame them? Who keeps up to date with a game they don't play?) Plus, I don't know what Bungie [i]could[/i] say that would boost the community. If "We're fixing the problems" doesn't get more players into the game, I don't know how "Yeah, we really -blammed- up" would do it, either. What does the community even want to hear? Like, what [i]could[/i] Bungie say that would turn the tide?

Sometimes you better stay silent and look smart rather than open you mouth and prove otherwise. What do you want Bungie to say about low player pop? It’s only about what they do, and they have done stuff already. Also, it’s a low period rn in D2 and BF6, BL4 are there so it probably sucked some players. For Renegades I bet a lot of people will be waiting for the review and community feedback before buying this time. So pre order number won’t mean much either. You gotta be careful in reading too much in the numbers here. But yes I agree D2 is entering a low maintenance, low cost phase and I don’t see it will ever go back. But that does not mean the game is dead.

[quote]Video is about the stats not the creator because typing all the stats would just see people saying there's no dropoff, people are at work, people always come back, etc etc . Jason shrier forecast this a year ago, that destiny is in its death spiral & Sony & bungie know it's over, & destiny will become a gane you play once a month not once a day. Forecasting all content will prinarily be reused assets & balance patches. The only thing we get from known info is that all the marathon pre order bonuses are items in destiny 2 - so they're openly trying to take the remaining players over to marathon & that renegades is more reused areas (mars D1) with the same model as now & no levelling progression so we"re certain to get more falloff. Is it actually over? Like for real? Thoughts?[/quote] Jason Schrier 🤣

This strikes me as another bad relationship type take… talk to me Bungie! I’ve done nothing but gripe about you for the last 2 months, you owe me a response. Nothing they say will satisfy anyone, heck nothing they could possibly say will be believed because the “community” has been in tantrum mode since forever. This is the type of crap that datto and roflwaffles and others have been preaching about… the “community” killing Destiny. This is the type of crap that dude who wrote the article about “jaded” players was talking about. There is a subgroup of Destiny players that stew in negativity, try to farm it out to anyone that joins the game, and generally just try to make the whole experience around the game as miserable as possible… all while trying to pawn it off as passion for what it could be or some such trite garbage abuser mentality. I honestly don’t blame them a bit for going quiet because sometimes the best thing to do is say nothing at all.

[quote]Video is about the stats not the creator because typing all the stats would just see people saying there's no dropoff, people are at work, people always come back, etc etc . Jason shrier forecast this a year ago, that destiny is in its death spiral & Sony & bungie know it's over, & destiny will become a gane you play once a month not once a day. Forecasting all content will prinarily be reused assets & balance patches. The only thing we get from known info is that all the marathon pre order bonuses are items in destiny 2 - so they're openly trying to take the remaining players over to marathon & that renegades is more reused areas (mars D1) with the same model as now & no levelling progression so we"re certain to get more falloff. Is it actually over? Like for real? Thoughts?[/quote] The short answer, no destiny 2 is not dead. Cross play allows us to find people to engage with in most areas we desire. Solonops is still an option... And we can test builds alone in the new training sector. I have over 40,000 hours in this game, and i dont want to quit yet

Or they're rather trying to get people that pre-ordered Marathon to try out Destiny.

Unfortunately yes, it might actually be over. Bungie has continued radio silence because sony more than likely already sent the news out. They're gonna limp across the finish line to Renegades release, and after that it's over. Either the studio will be liquidated and sony will find a new team to make D3, or they're going to liquidate anyway but destiny as a whole will get put on the shelf. The fact that we've somehow hit the absolute lowest population in the games history, and neither bungie or somy have said anything is very telling. It makes me sad.. I put over a decade of my life into this world, and watching it be neglected and turned into microtransaction hell is genuinely very painful. There is no other game like destiny, and when it's gone I really don't know where the community will end up. It's been a pleasure guardians.

This year of Destiny was Bungie’s tryout. Would there be a player base after The Final Shape? I guess we’ve found out. This is why Bungie stays quiet — and why we won’t hear anything until after Renegade. The reason is simple: there’s still a bit of hope left in the community. All these videos are built around a make-or-break moment. But if you ask me, Bungie already knows this is the end. It’s easy to follow the saying, “If you don’t have anything good to say, say nothing,” until all the Star Wars fans buy Renegade and the extra cosmetics in the Eververse store. Once everything has been bought by the consumers, Bungie will likely come out and announce that the Destiny franchise is ending — or being sold, like Halo was back in the day. In other words, this could be their final cash grab. And honestly, that’s a sensible move from a business standpoint. After this, Bungie will see if Marathon succeeds. If it doesn’t, they’ll likely fall back on Sony’s gaming division for job opportunities — and that will be the end of Bungie as we know it. It’s all a logical chain of events.

So after rewatching the vidoc and seeing how you can change the colors of the lightsabers bungie could totally shock us but it's total copium. Blue stasis, green strand and wait no red... Red Sub Class A New Hope. Sorry I spoiled the surprise

I typically don’t trust anything lucky10 says, but the again he just says exactly per script everything all the others say. He didn’t have any original content except the case where he hurt his son.

The end is nigh for sure

The plan was for Bungie to go multi IP. My assumption was that they’d have to alternate focus between Destiny and Marathon. That would explain the current situation, but nobody seems to know what Sony’s plans are. I can’t see Sony dropping a valuable IP like Destiny and Marathon will obviously depend on how well it performs. So maybe nothing’s changed yet and multi IP is still the goal for Bungie.

Hoping something happens over the next few months. I’ve been playing BF6 and it’s just not the same. I know PvP is in a trash -blam!- state right now, but still I’ll always prefer it. Especially during Lightfall release, I had the most fun there.

Mom always told me if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all