Uhhh, so the one thing people criticize in destiny rising, paid stuff, you want more of in d2. Is that what I am hearing from you? Seems like a weird take.

[quote]a whole 25 distinct templates for procedurally generated rooms while there are like 18 destinations? And by "landscapes" I assume this is not including the free roam areas. [/quote] There are destinations exclusive map with some being shared maps such as ships and galleon, giving two locations in one destination And landscape is the other name for free roam areas [quote]This is most of Warframe maps: The same exact architecture with slightly different textures like cyst on the walls or it rains when you're outside. Kepler is practically the only example of this in Destiny.[/quote] Only if you just look at a glance. Architecture between grineer, corpus and orokin are distinct while cyst on walls is caused by infestation and there are still 25 distinct maps just with that [quote]No. Warframe is a mobile game. You grind to grind to wait to grind[/quote] Do I need to remind you about pinnacle, weekly reset and such? No different [quote]The gameplay feels unrewarding also. Abilities either do nothing or clear the whole map at pretty much any difficulty[/quote] You need to learn a bit of modding for that and I've seen some madmen wiping the map with abilities that do nothing when I tried it [quote]most of the weapons are trash with rare exceptions (until you get the OHK anything super endgame stuff),[/quote] People are bringing tutorial weapons all the way to level 9999 nowadays, that's how big your power is and OHK anything requires some investment [quote]and there's a huge reliance on having the best mods and upgrades instead of having skill and being rewarded for it.[/quote] As if destiny isn't worse where you can only use a handful of gears because everything else is trash and the good gears end up being nerfed because they're used too much on bungie's graph and what skill? Plinking enemies from far away or relying on ability spam isn't really that much of a skill [quote]Not to mention that you need to grind vendor ranks at a daily limit if you want a lot of the good mods and such.[/quote] Good mods but not mandatory, and you will finish it in no time when you play while you have to go out of your way in destiny or we won't see the complaints about grinding caldera and mines if it's not [quote]you can play things that aren't in the portal. Nobody is stopping you.[/quote] And get nothing for it since everything is about portal? I doubt there's anyone playing them when they don't drop anything worthwhile [quote]You mean the same guys you've been fighting since 2014, but red now, or with a different thing on their head? I saw they added one set of new creatures a while ago in a major update, but only in one area. I don't count the same enemy faction with a different look as new.[/quote] Please, this is not destiny. There's the murmur which I prefer to call it possessed rocks, Scaldra which I'll just dismiss it as grineer but in 1999 with acid based attacks for you to make it not too much difference against destiny Overall, there are six factions (omitting several to make it not too much in difference) compared to destiny [quote]This ties into the first thing: Destiny has 9 (soon to be 10) distinct available destinations (some places can be accessed, but aren't available, and I'm not counting Cosmodrome or Plaguelands which are different maps but still Earth), 10 distinct raids which take place in mostly different settings than is available in patrol, 10 (soon to be 11) distinct dungeons that take place in different maps, dozens of strikes and several exotic missions in unique areas, not to mention all the crucible maps and seasonal activities (that are coming back around).[/quote] And how many out of all of that being useful when none of them being updated in rewards compared to portal? There are so many complaints about it that you can see just from this forum