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8/11/2025 2:10:59 PM
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It’s sbmm. So we are constantly playing against other good players. They need to remove sbmm so I can relax and stomp on new players who don’t have a build.
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[quote]Look at my last couple of games. The whole enemy team of randoms was all above 1.5 kd except for one 0.9[/quote] Well, this is easy to debunk. The last 4 games win loss ratio 42/58 70/30 76/24 84/16 Idk what SBMM u think u experienced, but it ain't here in destiny. In fact, out of ur last 12 games, only 3 had a win loss ratio in the 50-59 percentile. 75% of ur games were completely one-sided with no implication of similar skill set between the two teams. And that 25% statistic gets small the larger the pool gets. Realistically u probably have closer to a 7-10% 50-59% win loss percentile amongst ur whole destiny history. Meaning only 7-10% of ur games are actually balanced between the two teams.
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[quote]That’s what I’m saying. It’s one sided sbmm. It’s me vs all good players and I get all bots. Glad you can see the proof.[/quote] Okay, so let me understand all the hoops ur jumping through here. It's skill based match making. And everyone is the same skill level. But u have less skilled players, and the enemy has more skilled players, even though everyone is around the same skill level. But it's still skilled base matchmaking but for only one team. The other team isn't skilled based matchmaking, and that always happens to be your team. However, bungie needs to get rid of skilled based matchmaking because you can't get teammates at ur skill level with skill based matchmaking. Yep, it makes sense.
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Yes. Finally someone sees what’s happening. This is why I want them to turn off sbmm it’s so dumb and obviously one sided my game history is proof. Back in 2018 when 6v6 got introduced to d2 with the go fast update that was the golden age of PvP. No sbmm and I was farming bots all day. Go look up some old videos of that time. It got ruined because streamers and YouTubers were talking about how easy it was. It’s only easy for us because we put in the effort to be good at PvP. That was literally the last time I had fun.
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SBMM and lobby balancing are not the same thing. Your (very small) statistic does not disprove the presence of SBMM if anything it just proves the existence of extremely poor lobby balancing. Even within a skill bracket you can get lopsided matches if you put the upper end on one and the lower end on the other team. Often it's not even that one team is much better... it's just that several people on the other team don't take damage, ohk with things that should not ohk, teleport or appear out of thin air due to extremely poor connections (another indicatior for the existence of SBMM). Whoever has the lag on their side wins in that case - and lately that seems to be the deciding factor more often than not.
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[quote]SBMM and lobby balancing are not the same thing. Your (very small) statistic does not disprove the presence of SBMM if anything it just proves the existence of extremely poor lobby balancing. Even within a skill bracket you can get lopsided matches if you put the upper end on one and the lower end on the other team. Often it's not even that one team is much better... it's just that several people on the other team don't take damage, ohk with things that should not ohk, teleport or appear out of thin air due to extremely poor connections (another indicatior for the existence of SBMM). Whoever has the lag on their side wins in that case - and lately that seems to be the deciding factor more often than not.[/quote] This logic is fundamentally flawed, if sbmm was a thing then everyone would be about the same skill and therefore lobby balancing wouldn't be an issue. True it can happen every now and then but check ur own games and see, I'm willing to bet that a good 80% from the last 100 games, the win/loss ratio was completely one sided. It's happening to often for it to be lobby balancing and lobby balancing alone. As for lag, I've seen a laggy player about 1 out of every 40 or so games. My experience not yours of course. However if I'm not experiencing laggy players then why are all my games just as one sided? Bungie themselves stated sbmm is only outlier protection and otherwise is cbmm. So unless ur the bottom 20% or the top 10% ur not experiencing sbmm in 6s.
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? It’s not fake numbers. I’m a solo sweat and my kd for the past 8 years has been, well before this hard core sbmm I was a 3 kd now it’s 2.73 because of sbmm I’m playing sweats everyday. Sony is in charge so that means no communist leadership with bungies they/them crap. No more sbmm hopefully. COD or any other game has sbmm its only destiny
