[quote] get your point, new or low skilled players shouldn't go to osiris, can't expect someone who just picked up a sport and saying he will only go to tournemant an expecting someone with same skill as his opponent. That's the part you took for entitlement and you're right but hear me out. Without SBMM or other protection from bungie to avoid mercy rule in regular play when you get to spawn and get crused instantly what can you learn from that ? I do like pvp (more for the rewards than the gameplay) but queuing up knowing i'll get stomped rather than have a game go to 4 - 4 where i can think what to do and actually improve when i guess right or wrong is what make people grow.[/quote] As someone who is scratching a 1.0kd from time to time, I can say, just because you are allowed to participate, doesn't mean you should win. The problem with sbmm is that it doesn't prioritise connection meaning worst case scenario, I mag dump a guy and he still kills me. Hence because of population, trials should never be sbmm (At least not on lighthouse passage). The trials passage however does have sbmm however you will forego the cosmetic rewards you get from lighthouse and the Tiered loot might not be as high. I became decent at pvp because of the hands on experience, been playing trials since taken king. Most of the time when I see someone losing in trials or advocate for sbmm, I look at their loadouts and it all makes sense. Player ignorance or "Morality" picks are what is keeping people from achieving wins. I sometimes never understand the obsession with some weapons - Outbreak Perfected paired with Aisha's embrace, both are excellent on their own but terrible together. Simply put, a close range weapon will just destroy them - Double primary in general (Pulse/auto), (Scout/Auto). - Exotics that don't fit with their weapon choice or subclass. (Using a stasis or a strand weapon on the AoE chestpiece on warlock while it clearly reads Kinetic) - Equipping a void fragment like Instability yet not running any weapon be it primary or special to take a benefit from it. Just to name a couple things, the problem is also player mentality, its easier to be a victim than to solve it. When people point out the problem with the playstyle, its pros and its cons, you usually get a kneejerk reaction of "Let me play how I want to play". My brother in christ, you are moaning about the fact that a sidearm is overpowered yet you are running double range and nothing for close range. The problem with codification (where people think this is cod) is that Destiny is a position shooter and consistency shooter, not a quick ttk game. I can bring a sidearm to Multiplex with an smg and I can assure you, even with most experience, you will struggle. The goal is to achieve your optimal ttk as quickly as possible while using cover. Hence positional shooter. Creating blind spots for a 1v1 instead of a 1v2 is a deciding factor you will win or not. anyways back to the point, you learn a lot more from self reflection than a stomping match. You realised someone rushed you and now you are losing...well...maybe running a scout and a pulse in the same loadout isn't the right call. Usually when there is trials I post some optimal weapons in the clan discord so that casuals can try a hand at it. I also like to make and share builds for pvp so I try where I can to guide but damn...its rough