Here we go with the not enough Gunplay garbage talk. If you want Gunplay go play Call of duty.

Let me break this down in a few sections to make it easy. 1.) There is an entire game mode where abilities are not allowed for starters. 2.) This game is also built around the idea of “space magic”, even with Bungie throwing down constant ability nerfs. Don’t want a game with space magic? May I suggest BO6 (it is relatively fun). 3.) Cool downs were much faster prior the 3.0 system. 4.) You’re complaints about the current weapons I’m assuming you frequently get beaten by. Maybe learn how to bait a fusion rifle shot, or don’t run in a straight line with your shotgun. 5.) The player base is at an all time low, and unless you’re buying Pete parsons a vintage car, I doubt we’ll see any change. Now I say this with the exception of the prismatic hunter meta. The smokes, swarms, and clones can go, but they have since tuned this slightly.

"Abilities" are for people that aren't "able" to shoot straight.

No. You're not alone. The game was moving in a better direction before Final Shape and they seem to have completely scrapped what the pvp strike team was doing. I don't want to return to the old comp like you've said here, but there's too many abilities. The gunplay we had returned to in Into the Light is all but lost. Abilities and special are rampant again. Titans are broken. Pulses have slowed gameplay to a crawl. Games in a nose dive.

“But, but space magic” argument incoming! Pve players need the abilities to not feel bad in PvP.

Yeah. I really hate how content is now made with the ability spam in mind. Weapons and abilities has swapped places now. Weapons is more or less a thing you use here and there and abilities is your main form of attacks. Such a boring play style that Bungie wants us to play.

Tbh with all the cheaters and low pop I would just give up on crucible and go play cod. Sure it has cheaters to and horrible movement but atleast it has better servers and just as good gameplay. Abilities are part of the game and imo they aren’t a problem at all.

I thought there was a "weapons only" crucible mode now.

I disagree. While in PvE, sure, its ability spam out the wazoo, but all the most potent and powerful builds in PvP are centered around enhancing gunplay by either altering the way you approach a gunfight, or actively forcing alternate approaches from your opponents. Let’s look at some of the biggest metas that I remember inside of PvP. 1. Lorely Splendor Titans. Back during 3.0, they were nasty as all hell. We all remember this. The thing is, Lorely Splendor Titans were not potent because they were spamming offensive abilities. They were potent because they essentially made you immortal on any gunfight that was primary based. It didn’t actively remove gunplay, and while it shifted the meta in favor to specials, Gunplay was still at the center. 2. The Prismatic Hunter meta. This again, doesn’t really alter Gunplay. The abilities that are spammed due a number of things that are meant to distract and alter the approach or give the hunter a favorable advantage when entering gun fights. All the offensive abilities were shutdowns (Like area denial Swarm nades) And if you look at some of the best players in the game, like Hynra, while their builds heavily reliant on abilities, the primary function of the builds are to give a favorable advantage when entering a gun fight, or finishing off an opponent in Hynras case. To this end, the utility of the abilities far outweighs the power of the ability. Honestly, the most offensive Class is Warlocks, with abilities like Lightning Surge and the great number of buddies that they have witch they can spam, but even then, Solarlocks exist witch are another Utility based subclass when it comes to PvP, enhancing base gunplay and movement as opposed to providing purely offensive abilities.

It's a major reason the game is failing- . It's a [i]Looter Shooter[/i] that [b]DOESN'T[/b] need Loot because "MuH aBiLiTy SpAm". . [b]Ability Spam[/b] is [u]out of control[/u] thanks to [i]Prismatic[/i]. . I personally think the [b]3.0s[/b] were the [i]pinnacle[/i] of this game & actually promoted 50/50 gameplay.