I agree to a point. I remember being a confused new player a few years ago and almost stopped playing in the beginning but d2 is designed in a way that a better weapon drops at that point. Not sure how they know but most gaming companies put a lot of resources into knowing the players habits and know when to drop a really good weapon to keep them playing. I believe bungie has done that in the past but think the game has evolved to a point no matter what bungie does, not everyone is going to be happy. If they cater to the elite players, the new and average players say it's too hard. Cater to the new and average players, the elite players aren't happy. I complain about the game but still enjoy playing. I started as a solo titan almost quit because some pve required extensive jumps my titan couldn't make. Then saw one of Rick kackis's videos where he commented about warlock jumping is really good and I've been a solo warlock since. My fireteam finder experience has not been good. Tried it 3 times with pantheon but was removed each time. No idea why but guess I wasn't playing as well as the others. One patient player helped me get the outbreak perfected and another with choir of one. I've tried getting the catalysts for each but get left behind early on and the rest of the team finished before I could catch up. I've tried dungeons and raids and they are beyond my skill level. I'm older and realize I won't be able to get premium weapons. I'm not complaining about that. I enjoy playing the game and content with what I have and can achieve. I watch videos every day and admire the elite players and try their builds and suggestions. 30 years ago, I'd be able to be like them as much as I play now (avg 5 to 8 hrs a day, semi-retired so I consider this my job now). All that said, to the new players I'd suggest watching videos on builds and techniques. It will help. However, given the bungie layoffs, the past success of the game, high player expectations, bungie is desperate to keep players engaged instead of spending resources to fix problems and communicate effectively with the user base. The result is confused players that feel disrespected and taken for granted. A huge problem is bungie is not communicating well, probably a result of the layoffs. I've watched every aztecross, Rick kackis, cool guy videos (as well as others) and hearing more speculation in terms of where d2 is headed. A great example is dropping the destiny rising promo yesterday. I was interested and watched aztecross. He seemed surprised and a bit confused how this will work. That is what all his viewers will feel. Bungie, if you can't communicate with the players, you need to be in touch with the content creators. Keep them in the loop on where you're going. They do a great job communicating to the players. I'm confident if aztecross knew about destiny rising ahead of time he'd communicate what he knew then could put out a video the viewers could be excited for. He didn't say bad things about it, just wondering how this will work. In summary, this is a great example of dropping a huge promo that's going to take d2 in a different direction without thought how the user base will react. It seems like you drop this huge promo expecting players to be excited and will play. It's free play but we all know what that means. At some point we're going to have to pay up to continue playing or be bombarded with frequent, intrusive ads. That needs to be communicated now with the different options otherwise players are going to feel manipulated and stop playing.

[quote]I recently recruited two friends and they said Destiny's game is too difficult, causing extreme stress and inconvenience to beginners, and that it's only for a crazy few. The opinion is that the boss Vital Gauge is too big and boring compared to other games. In my case, I've been enjoying this game for 5 years, so I'm used to it, but I think it's a tricky game for beginners. Don't design the game based on the professional hunting methods of game-crazy YouTubers. It's not normal.[/quote] The health bar is 100% too damn big but streamers didn't ask for that. I don't know any streamers that said "yeah 6 phase dungeon bosses is the way to do it bungie!" How so I know that? Because of they did the forums would be lit up like a Christmas tree roasting them. The streamer, and many players, asked for more challenge, bungie in their infinite wisdom interpreted that as "add extra zeroes to health bar" The forums and many streamers talk constantly about ways to increase challenge that isn't bullet sponge enemies and making the player get 1 tapped. New mechanics, more enemy density, unique modifiers etc. All of that has been suggested to increase difficulty. None of that ever gets introduced in any meaningful way.

Which boss and What difficulty?

I think that is just “Skill Issue”. Some people can do something and some people can’t it just how it is. Not everyone are the same but the game provides activity for every level. If your saying someone just open the game is unable to do Raids and Master raids or GM as such it sounds just normal to me, your supposed to learn and grow to achieve things. But if your someone who only play story games that finish and done then I understand but Destiny 2 is not like that.

You can three phase the final boss, and the mechanics are not difficult either just tedious at times. Running still hunt with a hunter and warlock and we both did 5 mil, and our titan did about half so we could have done it quicker if not for that. This dungeon feels good, but it’s very mechanic heavy. If you keep shooting the first boss and applying scorch, damage is extended as well. Just play with the sandbox and try different stuff. New players shouldn’t be able to just hop into dungeons anyways, not that it matters because it’s brings them to the highest cap. It’s an experience issue. However, some old dungeons could benefit from an easy mode to let new players learn how they work.

Is the endgame difficult? Yup it's sometimes higher than almost all the popular games available It's something to achieve and it takes effort

I've been trying to get my buddy to play for years and he tries then gives up saying "it's just too complicated ". Which is understandable, a new player trying to figure out build crafting, optimal DPS, fragments, weapon rolls, etc.. when I try to explain it to him I 100% understand where he's coming from, it's not a casual log in once a week with your friends kind of game

At times it can be a sh*tstorm, but its all the prep thats a problem. New players got a looong, looooong road in front of them, and it can be really daunting. They come in and get their a** handed to them because they have nothing. No real armor, or weapons, or builds. Then you try to break it to them easy. Well you see, you need get good armor, and it could be anybody's guess when you'll get that, because first you'll probably get 12 helmets in a row thanks to RNG, and most could be useless to where you won't want to spend resources on them. Somewhere along the line you might get a few pieces worth a sh*t. Oh btw, these builds usually use some piece of exotic armor that you're not going to see for a while because you're so low on light level that the air in there alone will kill you in any of the locations the armor is found. You can probably do some kind of decent build in the time being...maybe. Oooh yeah I looked up on you tube and saw this dude using this green thing in his build. Oh, you mean strand? Well then, you're going to have to go to neomuna and hang out with that surfer freak Nimbicile and walk around for a few weeks with your d*ck in your hand while getting one shot by red bars while you eventually acquire your strand subclass, and then more time getting the currency to buy the fragments, and you will have to finish the campaign on all characters IF you want each of them to have strand. Speaking of which...uh, you don't have lightfall do you? Well, you're going to need that DLC too. What? you want to just play the new content? hahaha, yeah, no. You're not going anywhere for a while until you get done serving hard time in prison city neomina IF you want strand. Don't even mention Stasis. How are you in cold weather? Ever watch star wars? Yeah, you're going to go camp out on the frozen ice world Hoth, so better fire up your Tauntaun and go out exploring that place for a month or so IF you want stasis. Oh wait, yeah, you need that DLC too. Weapons you ask? Yeah you'll probably get some decent ones along the way, but again the really cool stuff won't be had until you do the harder activities, but thats after you get your good armor, and good builds, and you get do them again...and again...and again...and again.

Bungie think we treat the game as a job. They think we can spend hours in it, grinding away, running here and there, collecting etc. For someone just starting out, it must be quite baffling. Seasonal events, exotic missions, strikes and battlegrounds, patrols, gambit, PvP, half a dozen areas of varying difficulty… There is very little cohesion and very little signposting to ‘Start here’ then do A, then B… and so on. It’s just one big jumbled mess. So, yeah, I get the frustration.

Yea it is too overwhelming for them even the laid off Devs been telling higher ups that they need to stop focus too much on the top dedicated players it's not sustainable if it's driving off new players when they main focus should be bring back new and returning players. It's ok for me I've been playing since beta I just don't engage in activities when the loot is mediocre and we reached the point now in this game all the loot feel the same with just a different cosmetics and origin trait to it

The game is boringly easy if you know it, and hard if you don’t. I remember them saying post final shape they were going to invest in improving new player systems but that seems like it isn’t happening now