Because the streamers are obviously successful, because they continuously speak out against the community‘s will? How you people keep trying to blame your own incompetency on game design pushed by streamers is hilarious. You are part of a loud minority of casuals. Compared to streamers representing the active portion of the community, that actually plays the game and is in a position to objectively criticize game design decisions, your opinion simply doesnt matter as much.

You mean the streamers that d2 devs listen to that were part of a discord sharing pics an blackmailing women the same streamers that all made vids about another d2 streamer all over defamation that even after the truth came out none made a vid saying they was wrong for jumping on the bandwagon an helping nuke his career or the streamer that got caught talking to under-age girls using his yt fame or the cross-dressing narcissist or the multiple of banned streamers for cheating previously that are back streaming d2 an have been for 9 years give or take on and off with different variations of the same yt names . Not saying atall that all streamers are bad some are gems! but some of the ones d2 devs listen to atm are not who you want helping making decisions on how a multiplayer game moves forward

And some casuals who havent even played the game a lot are better sources to ask? Casuals like all the people suddenly discovering that D2 is a multiplayer game? Regardless of what some individuals have done, streamers are generally the best source of opinions on the game a developer can get. As bad as some of them are, they at least have knowledge about the game (some more, some less). They played enough to be able to rate difficulty/repetitiveness/… and they would not be successful and popular, if they continuously talked trash with no merit for their followers. Casuals and noobs like those, that are flooding this forum at the moment, lack the basis to build any relevant opinion or at least the proper reasoning for them. Like so often, they complain about stuff, because they cant do it, not because it is necessarily bad from a game design perspective. Some people I have encountered have no clue about anything, dont even know what a contest mode is, see a GM completion as a big achievement. By the way, how exactly do you have any idea who Bungie listens to and who not? Just because streamers share opinions and a fitting change gets implemented by Bungie, doesnt mean Bungie listened to that one specific streamer that has done that and that. Changes can even be done regardless of streamers‘ opinions, the developers gotta think for themselves once in a while. Just because it fits a streamer‘s opinion, doesnt mean he was relevant for the decision-making.

Because some of the wrong uns I stated about earlier were invited to d2 head quarters for early access to final shape an have had influence on how the game has moved forward in the past. I always wandered what is a casual noob in d2 nowadays since just completing one raid on master mode puts a player in the top 30% fkr pve more or less since raid clears in general arnt that high for the overall playerbase

Dual destiny is straight up 1of destiny's best missions imo. Dont care for streamer opinions. Ppl hate the barrier of entry not the mission in most cases. Unless youre deaf and on console, is imo the only excuse of not getting it done. Or "insert another rare dissabillity" + console.

I have a better reason. I hate people.

Dont cut yourself on that edge there.

No one ever said I had to like them.

There are plenty of people like you, but its pathetic to think you cant tolarate another person for 30min to get something done. My first run of the mission was with a person i hate from my group(a friend of a friend). I cant stand him but he was the only one available at that time and we got it done.

Who said I didn't do it?

Then why did you imply you didnt do it, by giving a reason to not do it. When you know its not a valid reason if you did it.

You can still then do it. Timer in any of the encounters isn’t so tight that you couldn’t type symbols and numbers you see (on console and without keyboard)

[quote]You can still then do it. Timer in any of the encounters isn’t so tight that you couldn’t type symbols and numbers you see (on console and without keyboard)[/quote] And there’s so many alternative ways to do it even beyond using text chat.

Except solo

[quote]Except solo[/quote] The game provides players with the means to find another player. Being a solo player is not an issue.

Tbh bungie messed up with this one For years every exotic armor piece was farmable solo (its not a raid weapon its armor) so you didn't have to rely on others to farm with or you always had an option to do it solo same as dungeons in your OWN TIME NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S, and bungie never mentioned the change before final shape release I wonder why ,would they of made less sales probably Plus the fact they listened to players that raid about surges but ignore players feedback about this mission speaks in huge volumes of who they are catering too Streamers /sherpas and sweats that treat d2 like a job and is a job for some . Raid completions are only by 30% of community max and about 15% to 20% of those players don't even play anymore

[quote]Tbh bungie messed up with this one For years every exotic armor piece was farmable solo (its not a raid weapon its armor) so you didn't have to rely on others to farm with or you always had an option to do it solo same as dungeons in your OWN TIME NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S, and bungie never mentioned the change before final shape release I wonder why ,would they of made less sales probably Plus the fact they listened to players that raid about surges but ignore players feedback about this mission speaks in huge volumes of who they are catering too Streamers /sherpas and sweats that treat d2 like a job and is a job for some . Raid completions are only by 30% of community max and about 15% to 20% of those players don't even play anymore[/quote] No exotic armor piece has had random rolls or been a class item. You can also farm it solo. Only a small minority of players are complaining about this mission. The rest are praising it for being one of the best lives of content they have delivered in years. Your stats in raids aren’t even remotely accurate. You can’t just throw out numbers.

Ye I know the stat's about raids ain't right the actual numbers are alot lower Next you'll be telling me all about how d2 lost close to 200k players in 3 to 4 weeks an it being a good thing 😆