Bows are fine, wishender wall hacks are pretty annoying. Bows are still probably going to get nerfed though since every streamer cries about them.

Wishender and Lemon 100% need re working in pvp. Hot swapping needs to be readjusted yes. But anyone who says legandary bows need a nerf is a 🤡 "Wahhhhh bows do to much damage" yet none of you sooks account for draw time. You can get banged by many wepons in the same time it takes to draw and shoot 1 arrow. Bunch of cry babies who have never used bows.

People who complain about a bow are the same ones who can't hit their sniper shots. People thinks using a bow is easy when in reality if you miss your first shot it's a disadvantage. Ever since bows was introduced the skill level it takes to use one has grown with every meta shift and bows are just anti meta at this point. Coming from a bow user who constantly goes flawless almost every weekend with one (usually top of the leaderboard) just practice and either get better dodging or shooting to counter a bow.

Yeah, they're a joke. Bungie nerfed weapons thst were not half as bad as bows are. The worst is players using bow/hc for the swap and kill. Absolute garbage weapon.

Not really. 1) Hard countered by snipers 2) Threadlings counter them 3) They are countered by any primary weapon when they are in the open (so they have to be used behind cover) 4) They have a charge time, but don't instant-kill 5) You have to move slowly when the arrow is drawn 6) The player has to choose between a way to deal with aping players (close range gun) or a way to clean up kills (long range gun). Either way leaves a ton of space open to take advantage of. 7) Unforgiving. If you miss, you're probably going to die. 8) Difficult to push with one. Now, on the other hand, I DO have some issues with bows. Namely, the unintended lag between getting hit and taking damage. When you get hit by a bow, especially Wishender, you don't take damage for around half a second to a second. It is EXTREMELY important to know whether you've been damaged, so this is an unintentional boon to bows. It should be fixed. EDIT: If you're talking about Checkmate, then you're probably right about bows (because Checkmate is unbalanced af and sucks). However, in regular PVP, they're fine as they are.

My opinion on bows is that it should be WAY harder to hit shots with them and crit damage in pvp should be less than 100. Bows should hit for 85 to the head. Yes i said it. Bows have infested pvp for way too long now and the only fix for them would be a reduction of the optimal ttk. Aim assist needs to be nerfed into the ground aswell. Literally everyone can hit shots with them. Zero skill involved. Wallhacks for wish ender and the le monarque tick damage that delays recovery for 20 minutes are enough of a benefit already as is. Why make them a two shot at all circumstances aswell? Completely unbalanced weapon type for pvp.

I've already asked this elsewhere but, what do you deem a bow , broken?

Nope! No more nerfs. Adapt to the situation.

I absolutely love these types of threads. Generalized statement that vastly overstates a problem created not by a lack of skill, but by some suddenly overpowered weapon class that is terrorizing an entire community. The original post is then made to be more specific by a pseudo scientific breakdown that seeks to describe why it’s only a couple of weapons that are the problem, not the entire weapon archetype. Infinite ammo sniper rifles has got to be my favorite all time description of bows. Every time I hear a person use it I can’t help but think that they have never shot a bow. I can fire 3 sniper rounds in the time it take me to fire one bow shot. Long story short skill/ego problem that’s highlighted by a game mode and map issue. If you had special ammo you could easily counter with grenade launchers. Maybe that’s why people are also screaming for fighting lion to be nerfed again…🙄🙄🤡.

Nah, whiners like you that want everything nerfed that kills them is what's broken And I don't use bows

Since these type of changes tend to effect PvE...yeah let's not. We got to really stop pretending like this game's PvP will ever reach any real balance. Every day it's nerf this nerf that from the PvP players. Nerf autos, nerf scouts, nerf sidearms, nerf shotgun etc. repeat. You guys will never be happy.

People like you are the reason why everything is getting nerfed. Can you just shut your -blam!- mouth for once?

Hand Cannon Range 1st

True statement. Too much ranch, too easy to hit crit shots.