Almost every Gunslinger exotic has to do with throwing knives but the problem is that because throwing knives do such little damage you can't really justify using Gunslinger over another (and objectively better) subclass. On PRECISION hit these are the damage values of knives in PvE: Weighted throwing knife does: 39,710 Explosive Knife: 18,437 + 16,906 = 35,343 Knife Trick: 15,487 x3 = 46,461 Lightweight Knife: 24,583 FOR COMPARISON LOOK AT SOLAR TITAN'S HAMMER (An infinitely refundable ability that heals you when you pick it up and DOES NOT REQUIRE PRECISION HITS): Base Throwing Hammer: 34,037 x3 Roaring Flames Throwing Hammer: 88,224 x3 Roaring Flames Synthoceps Thowing Hammer: [b]135,910!!![/b] Edit: someone wanted warlock numbers. Incinerator Snap does 5,641 x 5 + 42,617 (ignition) = 70,822 Celestial fire does 10,673 x 3 = 32,019 Snap is an amazing ability but celestial fire could use some love as well as the knives. Even if celestial fire has some AOE and tracking I still think it does too low damage. Despite that criticism I still think knives are still way worse (keep in mind they require precision hits to do this much damage) Solar hunter absolutely crutches on knives now that Young Ahamkara's Spine has been nerfed but the problem is that knives are GARBAGE. They flat out need a 100% increase in damage, maybe more. In order to refund the knives you need to 1. Get a kill with them 2. Have Ember of Torches on (Literally glued to solar hunters because it's required for the subclass to literally function) 3. Have Knock 'Em Down equipped as your aspect. It makes NO SENSE for knives to be as horrible as they are. A solution to this problem is maybe they get a flat damage buff and On Your Mark enhances your knives sort of like how roaring flames enhances every single one of your abilities. Kind of like a built in Athrys's Embrace.