I see you have a Solar Warlock; how is your Arc Build? Chaos Reach with Geomag Stabilizers packs a punch. And there are good arc weapons to use.

Your also running double primary sooooo

Dare I say skill issue

spire is just a vanguard ops level , altars make the player choose the difficulty , tier 1 TUTORIAL MODE tier 2 NORMAL MODE tier 3 HARD MODE. Bungie this season made the seasonal modes both easy to me is impossible that someone is failing spire or tier1/2 altars. You should stop using double primary with a terrible heavy

[quote]I have played each of these for hours with 1 other teammate & a varying 3rd rando. Between the time limits, the ridiculously hard activities (& puzzles), we keep getting failure after failure (or lost) & never can get ANY of them completed. We just keep wasting a bunch of time and gaining a bunch of frustration. I have paid good money for this game and was looking forward to checking out the final shape, but what's the point in paying for a game that you can't play because they are making it so impossible to just be able to play it and have fun - ummm, like how games should be??? SMH[/quote] ? 3 levels of difficulty. Which one are you struggling with? It's obviously the hard one. Maybe try 1 of the easier 2 versions?

Which tiers were you running for the Altar of Summoning? The tier 3 run can definitely be a chore, but the first and second are much more manageable. It's like everything else, start with the bottom until you feel more confident and work out a strategy/loadout that works for you, then step it up to the higher tiers.