[quote]That's just my gut reaction. I LOVE the idea of the game being more challenging and forcing you to engage more -- currently Vanguard Strikes are just a snooze fest with no reason to play. What worries me is that there was 0 talk of changes to the game's reward structure. You can't just go and crank the difficulty knob in a game like this - that only solves half the problem. If things get significantly more difficult but the rewards structure isn't reworked to fit those changes, then all we're gonna have is a game that feels like even more of a grindy slog. Legend Lost Sectors seem like a great activity to use as an example. They aren't getting updated drop rates, as Bungie says [quote]We will be monitoring completion rates and times during Season 20 to see if Exotic engram drop rates need to be adjusted.[/quote] The biggest complaint of Legend Lost Sectors is [b][i]by far[/i][/b] the horrible RNG grind that comes with them. Sometimes you do luck out and get an exotic right away, but its extremely common to have to run it 15-20+ times in order to get your drop. Even if you get the drop, there is 0 farmability after the fact because you're at the mercy of RNG once again to try and get the one specific exotic you're looking for. Simply making Legend Lost Sectors harder is only going to add to this complaint, and it'll probably grow by an exponential amount. The same thing goes for strikes. Its already a slog to try and grind for a god-rolled Vanguard weapon because the loot pool is big, and the perk pools are even bigger (looking at you, Prolonged Engagement). It'll only be more of a painful grind if the activities are harder and take longer to complete. I think this playlist will (hopefully) be hit less hard, since we're getting Vanguard focusing in Lightfall, but its still a concern. I want D2 to be challenging - that's when its at its best. This sounds -at face value- like a half baked job though. Its like if you were to buy a beat up house just to tear it down and put a new one up, but you simply call it quits after demo'ing the old house. Not only is the job half finished, but you're left in a worse spot than you were before. I'm obviously gonna give it a shot, and try my best to keep an open mind because its never a good idea to pass judgement of something we haven't even gotten our hands on yet (yes, shots fired at a certain class who's unhappy with upcoming abilities lol). Still, this is worrisome to say the least. EDIT: Wanted to add something else that I forgot to write but really stuck out -- removing Match Game had me super excited, but then you cut our damage in half against mismatched shields throughout the entire game? So now we're just gonna have "Match Game Lite" active all the time...it feels like there's a serious lack of logic here.[/quote] Re: Edit especially Bungie evidently thinks we are all stupid. They keep promising what we want then changing the sandbox to push their agenda, max money for min work, to insure we are set back further than any gain we asked for would have helped. Re: the rest of the post. I don't EVER want Bungie to add difficulty or challenge. Primarily because Bungie does not comprehend these things. When Bungie thinks they are adding Challenge, they are really ONLY adding tedium, grind, and very [i][b]conditional[/b][/i] success circumstances. Only beat high level content with certain weapons, certain builds, non-matchmade fireteams, etc. Challenge happens when a game tests us for skills the game taught us, that we actually learned, so we get the sense of earned accomplishment. Destiny pretends to challenge when in fact all they are doing is GRIND GATING or COMPLIANCE GATING every activity. In summary: Bungie is wasting our time.