I have over 11000 hours in this game with about 7000 of them being in PvP alone, I've been a dedicated player ever since D1 alpha, I have over 50 carries in D1 trials and easily over 200 double carries in D2 trials and been in the top 500 trials players many times. About 6-7 months ago I finally gave up, I got sick and tired of adapting to the slow and boring playstyle that PvP has become, of sitting in the back of the map, staring at corners and lanes with scouts and pulses and crutching on sidearms. I just built my first PC and after getting used to mouse and keyboard I decided to hop on destiny to see what's been going on and what I've missed. my first game of PvP and... surprise surprise, the meta and flow of PvP has not changed at all. first game back, 6 stack citan rampart titans with no time and DMT in spawn, warlocks with no time and scouts with their rifts in spawn, crouch walking hunters with pulses just staring at lanes. its just not a fun experience anymore, I left without even completing my first game back and got a "competitive crucible suspension" from quickplay, who tf came up with that idea. if you want people to play PvP and to actually complete games and maybe even IDK... have fun, FIX PVP. I was gone for almost a year and almost nothing has changed, how do you guys not see the problem here? even with the community telling you what's wrong and what we want. maybe listen the the people who actually play the game and not "Billy-Bob" over here who has a full time job and plays once a week and gets destroyed by a half decent player with a handcannon/ shotty/ sniper and gives up on PvP and comes to the forums to complain about skill gap. I've never complained about the game, I even turned it into a job for a little bit, but I and way more people than I can even fathom, has had enough. none of my top PvP friends even play anymore because of these exact reasonings. I'm just sad that this is how my favorite game has ended for me and for all of my friends. This message to Bungie will get blown over and will not matter but... Fix PvP, put it back to the way we all liked it, I'm not the first person to say this, and I definitely will not be the last. That is all. thanks for reading my rant and listening. Goodbye Destiny, goodbye Bungie.