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Omega-7により編集済み:
12/14/2022 1:33:13 AM
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A hunter main’s message to all warlock mains
Just know that this is from my point of view so if someone thinks otherwise that’s fine.
But I have seen warlocks in PvP games before and I think they are pretty powerful just as hunters or titans and that they’re a vital part of a fireteam of guardians.
Like Chaos Reach can wipe out a lot of players in a match without doing much and We’ll of Radiance can keep your team alive when a large group of adds come your way and Nova Bomb is pretty good against tough enemies.
And when I play as a warlock, Storm Trance is my favorite subclass to use against enemies in PvE and maybe PvP as well.
All I’m trying to say is that warlocks are better than you think because they can so much more than you think and I know what you might be thinking “oh you don’t know what you’re talking about” or “yeah but there are other things other than that” and you might be right but I want is for you to look for the silver lining in warlocks.
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It's not the supers that are the issue, every class has strong supers. Invisibility, dodge and barricade are far superior to rift. People play trials to win and they will play whatever is the strongest. If you look at the usage rates of the trials players that are successful in trials, you will see class usage rates are not even close because they will use what is the strongest.
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4 通の返信[quote]Just know that this is from my point of view so if someone thinks otherwise that’s fine. But I have seen warlocks in PvP games before and I think they are pretty powerful just as hunters or titans and that they’re a vital part of a fireteam of guardians. Like Chaos Reach can wipe out a lot of players in a match without doing much and We’ll of Radiance can keep your team alive when a large group of adds come your way and Nova Bomb is pretty good against tough enemies. And when I play as a warlock, Storm Trance is my favorite subclass to use against enemies in PvE and maybe PvP as well. All I’m trying to say is that warlocks are better than you think because they can so much more than you think and I know what you might be thinking “oh you don’t know what you’re talking about” or “yeah but there are other things other than that” and you might be right but I want is for you to look for the silver lining in warlocks.[/quote] As a warlock main THANK YOU
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2 通の返信Sorry dude but I've lived and breathed warlocks since day 1 D1 beta and you're way off base here. Warlocks have to jump a whole lot of hoops just to be able to do what hunters and titans can do and even they can still seemingly do it better. For example (and I could give more) Example 1. Titans buffed grenades aspect grants two fragment slots and buffs said grenades when thrown. Warlock grenade aspect..grants one fragment slot and the grenades have to go through a charge up animation to be the buffed version. Example 2. Void Hunters and Titans get to activate over shields and invis just from using their class ability. Warlocks however can not activate devour at will and either have to get a void ability kill, equip a fragment then pick up an orb of power....or equip an exotic then select a specific rift (the worse one) in order to proc devour with our class ability. Seem fair? No it's not. (Also that means we can't use a good exotic and also we have to choose the empowering rift when healing rift is just better) So most of us aren't saying we can't do well on warlocks, what we are saying however is the other classes can do well far easier right now with things that are executed with less set up and effort and provide more benefit. If we want this game to be the best it can be then warlocks need some serious attention in the pvp space.
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"Be the best at doing what you can do, and what you can't do, I'll do for you." As some one who plays in a fireteam where we are each one of the different classes, I've learned to appreciate every classes different strengths and the combined powers they can achieve. (Warlock main)
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Warlocks are the least used class in Crucible by a large margin. Hopefully, Warlocks will be more valuable now that Invis and Storm Grenades have been nerfed and some Warlock abilities have been buffed. We will know by the end of the weekend
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1 返信Warlock's will continue to be 22% in Trials.. Numbers are that for a reason.. Without question PvP is easier when playing as a Hunter or Titan in the current state of game..
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1 返信I honestly disagree. I feel markedly weaker on warlock in pve. It's like they've gone and undertuned everything EXCEPT well of radiance, because well of radiance is so powerful. But like sometimes I want my neutral game to be good. Is that too much to ask? As a hunter main myself, BUFF WARLOCKS. At LEAST in pve.
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Infamous067により編集済み: 12/14/2022 6:24:09 PMOh look another hunter main with the least used class being a warlock telling everyone that warlocks are fine. The hypocrisy is wild on these forums lmao! Bro there is a legitimate reason why warlocks are the least used class in the game in pvp. Warlocks are only ever used as well bots now a days and you know it. Back when I had my hunter I never once had any issues cheesing my 1v1’s in pvp. I came to accept this is the way the game is gonna be and I don’t have all the time in the world to have 3 different classes anymore. If I could go back in time I would’ve just went hunter
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This is fair, however it feels like you need to work harder and smarter when you play warlock right now than either other class where you slap on an exotic and off you go. I'm aware warlocks have god tier exotics that also make life easier for free however you still need to think. The other classes are just simpler and low effort right now.
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The stats will speak for themselves. They have made almost no meaningful changes to the warlock kit for the crucible. Nerfing the over performing arc titan and void hunter will help but without anything added to warlocks I don’t see usage increasing by much.
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This is fair, however it feels like you need to work harder and smarter when you play warlock right now than either other class where you slap on an exotic and off you go. I'm aware warlocks have god tier exotics that also make life easier for free however you still need to think. The other classes are just simpler and low effort right now.
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1 返信NeoReaper82により編集済み: 12/15/2022 12:46:32 AM
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3 通の返信Warlocks are good in pvp. The problem is, Hunter's and Titans are exceptionally better and in comparison to warlocks, require way less in order to get the best of their kits going with very little effort. Best Hunter build right now is maining Invis which is so braindead easy you can do it with the tap of a button. Best Titan build is maining overshield which is so braindead easy you can do it with the tap of a button. Or spamming storm grenades too I guess. What is Warlocks goto easy braindead getup? Bleak watcher spam? Waveframe gl slide zappy melee? Arc buddy spam? Why deal with with all the extra steps when Hunter and Titan can be better with way less and use class abilities that have almost a 3x faster cooldown than Rift? The meta is and ways has been "use what's easier with the least amount of effort" and we see what that currently is. It also doesn't help that Bungie kind of stripped the Warlock of their individuality by giving ALL classes their unique traits so you can have all the benefits of running a Warlock without running a Warlock. Can you do pretty good in pvp as a Warlock running whatever you want, sure you most definitely can. But you'd probably be doing even better as another class...
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1 返信Solar Warlock is my favourite PvE class. But sorry Warlocks are second class citizens in the crucible.
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A_moにより編集済み: 12/14/2022 7:23:49 PMJust speaking from a purely subclass based perspective, shadebinder is at least the second best subclass in the game. The only reason it might not be as good as arc titan is because arc titan gets better mileage per gallon in terms of the amount of thought required. In comp they also end up getting away with things that they probably shouldn't be able to due to the "stuff" that can happen in that mode. Void on hunters is really good but in comp when you have one on your team you really do have to play like they aren't going to be using a super move. And even though some may call invis "braindead" easy to use its still a pretty particular playstyle that might not suit the way some people play hunters. There's a lot of people that are just using it without it really giving them the advantage that it does for some other people.
