Saw the nerf to witherhoard, and while I personally don't lean on that gun like others do, I feel like its popularity in raids has little to do with power and more to do with spawn trapping adds.
Every encounter of every raid has predicable and consistent add spawns. That makes spawn trapping them exceptionally easy to do.
The consistency makes it easier for casual players to get through, but it also makes it easier for hardcore raiders to predict and trap enemy spawns with weapons like anarchy and witherhoard.
This is the true reason why they are so popular in raids.
In the absence of witherhoard, your next nerf is going to be trinity ghoul, and then after that, people are just going to stop running raids as often because clearing out 100s of adds with a hand cannon or auto rifle is an awful experience.
This tunnel doesn't end until the batch add clear weapons all get turned into useless pieces of junk. You're just kicking the ball down the road.
Thanks.
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Pretty much this. I’m just gonna go back to stasis lock and let my turrets do the work again while I melt things with sceptre. Take my witherhoard away and I’ll just use the next best thing for ad control.
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ThatGuyにより編集済み: 12/4/2022 6:56:48 PMJust posted this in another thread but it fits better here. "Outdated enemy's are a bigger issue that Witherhoard. Don't spawn a entire raids worth of adds through two doors and I won't plug those doors with Witherhoard. PVP players need to walk around the puddle."
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If you didn’t feel the need to use witherhoard to camp doors bungie wouldn’t have nerfed it lmao
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Remember when everything was nerfed Into oblivion in d1? Pepperidge farm Remembers
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There’s also the fact that well of radiance not only puts bubble completely out of a job, but trivializes any content it’s used in. The entire rest of that subclass is awful but it’s still used so much because of it. Tbh Well shouldn’t have ever given weapon damage buffs. I personally feel like it should grant large bonuses to ability regen and effectiveness along with the healing, no weapon damage buffs; legit just make it an AOE radiance everyone profits from with healing added in. Wanna make warlock a space wizard? Emphasize the magic for once. Then bubble gets its role back and they can live happily together. A beefed up radiance would’ve been so much better than well. Well makes the game passive and boring in any content that is supposed to be a challenge. At least in the olden days we had to think about where we were standing and what we were doing in boss damage phases lol. Now it’s just stand still and gun because that’s SOOOO fun. What’s worse is now so many encounters are designed around this brain dead mechanic, it’s such a shame honestly. This is also coming from someone who mained warlock since beta of D1 up until the start of this season. (Titan now)
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I love your post and agree with your thesis completely. But I assume it’s harder to do random generation so I doubt they’d do it.
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Illuminaryにより編集済み: 12/1/2022 11:54:28 PMUnless they touch the economy this nerf won't hurt since you can basically spam the shot and still find ammo all around. I used it a ton when I first came back but now just in GM Glassway mainly because of the ending. I think it will be ok until they nerf the economy.
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With random spawn spots and times encounters would become a lottery or become simply unbelievable on day one or master unless you are lucky.
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A few seconds off your pool timer isn't going to stop you spawntrapping ads with Witherhoard. It got nerfed because it's damage was too high.
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Idk it was low-key needed. Been a bit of a crutch weapon for a while and overused. It's very possible it's nerfed due to the new Dungeon. The nerf to Witherhoard and Galley tells me it's possibly a Crota revamp as a dungeon. Gally was probably one shooting his knee mechanic, and same with the DOT GL. Just a theory tho
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No other ad clear weapons such as Trinity come close to the power of Wither though. None of those weapons shoot out DOT and then allow you to switch to another weapon to do additional damage on top of it. As much as I think the Wither nerf is cowardly too, I wouldn't dare say other exotic ad clear primaries are comparable to its many combinations.
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So, I'm thinking that the loss of a couple dmg. tics isn't gonna -blam!- witherhoard . I'll just be a couple seconds more mindful. Slightly Less oppressive in PvP GREAT!