Agree wholeheartedly. I'm sorry you feel this way about Destiny now. I'm a day one Destiny player, and have recently cancelled our preorder for Lightfall. I no longer feel like my time and investment in the game is respected or worth it.

You forgot the pinnacle system. It's mindboggling how they let this go on, for years, it's so bad. 3 weeks of pinnacles on 3 characters, that's like 60+ drops, EVERY drop a weapon at 1578, all my armour is 1575 and I get nothing, for days upon days of running things I despise like gambit, trials, master ketchcrash, vox obscura, preservation It's compounded by the loot pools, every pool in the game feels awful. Hey go run iron banner all week, and get Out of Bounds SMG as a reward after EVERY game, the design is sooooooo bad, it's beyond frustrating There's nothing quite like feeling you're completely wasting your time

When even year 1 DLC looks absolutely awesome compared to this stale, boring seasonal model, theres an issue. I personally am so over every single game throwing this "keep players busy" battle pass model at their players. Who cares at this point. It's not good content, nor is it healthy for the player population. Bungie wanted to limit content droughts. Instead they produce player burnout left and right. And most of those players aren't looking back. Content droughts are healthy because players get the chance to play other stuff and look forward to FUN and QUALITY releases of the game. This "keep player busy with the game at all time" model is just removing that. A new season isn't exciting, it's a draining reset button for progression and a restart for the chores. Nothing more to it.

Yeah, basically. This game has the potential to be the looter shooter that the entire market holds up as the standard to meet. Instead, it's just squandered with the trickle of content model. The seasons this year just haven't been engaging at all. I tuned out halfway through last season and skipped the first month of this season and still can't be bothered to complete the quest step that requires something like five runs of the six man activity. The banality is overwhelming and has been for two years. Last season was literally a reskin of "nightmares" which were already a reskin of previous enemies. The entire nightmare presentation makes me feel like I'm back on an original PlayStation squinting to try to even make out what I'm looking at through the cheesy distortion. That last dungeon was the most headache-inducing cluster of audio and visual distortion I've ever dealt with. It's miserable outside and has been the last few days and instead of playing Destiny (which I have done every time I have been locked inside since 2014) I'm rewatching The Mentalist for the fifth or sixth time.

If they don’t make some big changes, the game is going to die. I used to play a lot and now have no desire to log in. They have turned it into a children’s cartoon.

When everyone that made the base game leave and you are left with woke devs ,this is what we get after 8 years ,I feel you bro ,and I feel every comment in this section But I am done with this company and what they will ever make ,I think it's time to move on sincerely all of us Remember this : if you are in the stage of making and writing posts like this explaining and semi/defending for your inner peace and finding pro/cons then its time to put to the ground this game It was so much fun in first 3 seasons ,now its a boring -blam!- copy/paste ..8 years bro ...8 years ..from my point of view and what anger I feel now for the devs and the company ,I hope they will not make anything noticeable or anything as long as that trash -blam!- company lives along with the woke devs or wtf they are anymore Time for new games ,new studios ,new theme ,new universe ....Darktide looks promising ..Bye Traveler and Hello Emperor But bro trust me its time to put this -blam!- game to ground and move on ,it will feel much better

I don't want to be negative . Played since the beginning . They do enough to keep folks interested and maximize profits . Checkout their profits from last year . The game has 2 years left , why change now ?

Game was proposed to have a 10 year lifespan. Game is now on its 8th year. They have 2 more years to drag this broken and empty design so that they can probably say to the dwindling player population that they finally did it as promised. Yeah, it will probably drag for another 2 years just so that they could say they did it. Little does this dwindling playerbase know that even after getting into its 10th year, the game will still remain a failure!🤣 Heck, even Activision, the main investor and publisher for this franchise left and dumped this broken and empty game for dead sinking in shallow waters because they too knew it’s a failure.🤣 This broken and empty game will probably drag this empty design for another couple more years. It will probably not get better. Still a broken and empty game. A Failure!🤣

Mark my words, bungie will unvault scourge of the past raid one day in between light fall and the expansion after, and when they bring it back they’ll make all the raid’s weapons craftable. That’ll lure everyone into playing over that season. It’s exactly what they’re doing this upcoming season - baiting everyone into playing the game more by making deepstone weapons craftable. Bungie’s entire formula for a while now has been -> release expansion to occupy people with story -> after expansion has been thoroughly completed by the majority of the playerbase, release old content to bait players into playing more - > repeat last step 2 or 3 times -> release new expansion with new story

They just need to hire the right people and unfortunately, it seems like they found their clique and stick to it. They just want to get paid with as little effort it seems. Nothings going to change until their leadership does.

I agree with everything you said except the seasonal model, it was bad to begin with and was the nail in the coffin for me. It wasn’t about content - it’s about $$$

Looking back to D1 reset day: a regular bunch of us - not all the same bods every week, would get a heads-up to see if any interest to loot the gorgon chests…then spread the love (cp) around and about…then RESET hour… Next step: get the flaming blue hairdo…then hit the raid! We did this week in, and week out; once done, it was IB time or just regular crucible. …and on into the weekend where the late arrivals gang would join the fray, and we’d all do more raids…usually helping a bud’s other buddy to get stuff done. That’s how we rolled back then, and we weren’t doing anything many other regular crews were also doing. Until - the big lie…sunsetting. 👈🤬 I left and became a whale Tenno (MR24) for some time…until a powerful wave of nostalgia returned me to these shores, after watching some vids myself and my (then young) son made…I was / am his wingman! 🫡 Now, in D2, I pootle about, doing vanilla stuff - on both of our accounts. I’ll chase something down if it appeals, but not chase stupid stuff, eg, another buddy who nearly became unhinged in his nonstop hunt for EoT; I joined him for a few final c/p runs…but soon gave that a miss because it was getting beyond ludicrous!?! He spent a few more weeks on the hunt, got it, then disappeared from the game. 🧐 I did enjoy doing those solo pirate missions…me against a veritable small army! I didn’t enjoy fighting team8s on the Ketch- and Expedition Missions - for who could steal the most explody things or loot engrams or the Captains’ weapon to activate the nodes…nor the ‘crew mate’ thing…nor the Ruffian debacle - even though I was nearly done on both accounts before BHQ auto-updated it…what scallywags they be! 🫤 And now, after the latest bit of shenanigans, the pathetic upgrades to the Eliksni Quarters for all that grind…even though the sharper set amongst us figured out a doable shortcut and ended the event fast af…😂 I wonder, if that might have been BHQs / Destiny’s - ‘Ratner Moment’? Google it! I also wonder what Sony HQ are getting out of it, after spending all those 🤮🤮🤮…they must know something we don’t…or…did they just throw money at the (potential big-) screen??? 🍋🍋🍋 I’m happy to see out the 10th and final episode…but I shan’t be holding my breath, either. The only truly epic thing I will hold as a keepsake is how very, very close Destiny was to becoming one of the truly G. O.A.T. titles…but was mismanaged to mediocrity and ruin, by the nonstop nonsense and shenanigans by BHQ - and that’s the truth writ large! TLDR: 🤫 Just my 2d worth. 🫡 Cheers!