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Smoughにより編集済み: 10/26/2022 5:35:56 PM
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Bungie needs to focus on the core game.

Bungie, the core activities of your game are dying. Crucible, gambit, strikes, patrols… All of them are very quickly losing any relevance if they haven’t lost all of it already. Old raids and dungeons are becoming easier and easier to steamroll through with little effort due to powercreep, and the loot from these activities is becoming more and more dated. This is one of the largest problems with destiny 2 right now in my opinion. Despite these activities dying, and despite placing precious pinnacles behind said activities, almost nothing is being done about it outside of a small update here and there. Instead, bungie is focusing on disposable seasonal content. Content that, unlike the core activities, will be trashed by the end of the year to make room for MORE disposable content. So bungie, as someone who wants to enjoy playing destiny 2, I ask that next year you take a look at the activities I mentioned at the beginning of my post, and make a serious effort in updating and improving them. Stop making disposable content for a season or two, and use the time to improve what’s already in the game. Nobody is going to miss an activity where you stand on plates and throw orbs for the 10 millionth time, but they will notice and likely appreciate an update to the core activities. Will this actually get noticed by bungie? I doubt it. But it’s something I really wanted to post.

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  • conkus805により編集済み: 10/27/2022 7:58:09 PM
    the core game (in early d1) used to be that you had to do higher level activities to even earn a legendary weapon. now the game showers us with way too much gear, I mean, you can get legendaries from patrol rewards which is rediculous. the problem is the gear has lost all its wow factor a long time ago. it used to be that once you got that legendary drop it would help your game by alot, then you had to use that weapon and gain experience and unlock the perks it dropped with. I loved that you would become familiar with the weapon and your guardian grew stronger as the gun leveled. I know, rose colored glasses of nostalgia, but I believe the game was better with that model of leveling. it's just way too casual now, and it shows.

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  • UnleashedArcherにより編集済み: 10/27/2022 8:16:28 AM
    Destiny 2 is on a set it and forget it model. They don't make new content bc the cosmetics are selling They don't change the seasonal model bc its easy to copy and paste mechanics for a new activity. Little effort. They have a core player count and a revenue stream they feel comfortable with. Those who are here playing daily probably aren't going anywhere This is all until they push a new game. The problem with this though, is I won't play another Bungie game after how they've handled D2. D2 is my last bungie stop and I'm getting throughly exhausted with it. Thank goodness God of war and callisto protocol are around the corner

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    • Roachにより編集済み: 10/27/2022 7:18:09 PM
      It's alright. The game is saved. Bungie has come forth with the joyous TWAB news that they, in their all embracing wisdom, are making Deep Stone Crypt raid weapons craftable. Yay. Something literally no one asked for. Finally an end to all the posts asking to be able to craft DSC raid weapons. Personally, as I haven't completed ANY raid in this game, this is as much us to me as a chocolate fireguard. Still, I can run strikes for 4 planetary materials or maybe enjoy a rigged game of catch up mechanic Gambit on one of the three maps we are allowed. And, if that level of excitement just gets all too much, I can run public events on my power level hard capped characters for 1570 blues .. to say nothing of the Scallywag title chase where I have to run, according to this week's Seasonal "Triumphs", another fifteen Expedition runs and then wait two weeks to finish up by spending the last 24 Umbral Energy I need focusing engrams to hit the 150 needed. Bungie are so wise here making me wait two weeks by only allowing me to focus one a week. It's not like letting me just focus two and finish up is the way to go. They are so wise in spacing the sheer euphoria of over two weeks to ensure I don't melt with joy. My cup truly runneth over. But wait, It gets even better. They are, and I can hardly contain myself here, from Lightfall in late February .. stopping non craftable weapons dropping with deepsight. Praise be. The game is saved. Our prayers have been answered.

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      • Imagine how good D2 could be if they spent the last three years working toward improving the core activity playlists? Instead we have a boring & frustrating seasonal mess on repeat-mode.

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      • xbroggiexにより編集済み: 10/29/2022 3:19:47 AM
        Problem is there is not much point in updating core playlists outside of maybe crucible and gambit in terms of maps/modes. New strikes are cool but the novelty wears off after 2 runs and then they just mesh together and aren't interesting or fun anymore, I think we get enough new strikes a year that keeps the playlist at least somewhat changing enough. New crucible maps are crucial but honestly Bungie are probably better off adding some forge mode or something and feature community maps instead and allow us to pretty much have Halo level MP in Destiny. Custom Games could kill a lot of time when there is a content drought which means Bungie doesn't have to try to appease players by dropping a crumb of content each week. Gambit needs to have new maps or a straight up overhaul or rework because it isn't that interesting and doesn't have enough variety to keep it fresh. I think we don't need more core content we just need more content that is of a higher quality and based around the idea that it is there to be enjoyable rather than to feed hardcore players.

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      • There is no hope here. Only more monetization. Milking the cow. Even their anniversary event is a paid recycled gun. They’re just milking you. They got bought off by Sony and Sony won’t even touch this broken and empty game. Why? Because Sony wants the idea of milking you too. Haha!🤣 It’s laughable!🤣 Empty game!

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      • TheShadowにより編集済み: 10/26/2022 11:33:52 PM
        What they should be doing and what they will do are 2 totally separate things. Bungie's actions over the last 3 years proves what has been said about them over the years to be true, and that isn't a good thing at all. It was Activision that was somewhat keeping Bungie in line, making them do their job as we pay them to. Now that Activision is gone, Bungie can go back to being how they have always been, wanting to get paid but doesn't want to put the effort into their game as they should be doing. There is no excuse the Bungie fans can come up with knowing Bungie has had over 3 years now, and when I look back on how they stressed how they only had a small team to create Rise Of Iron. I'm like how the hell does a small team do better work them what we have today? The small team made this entire studio look foolish...

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        • My problem is...I don't know how you even make strikes enticing again.

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        • 堺市 Rinzler (PRIMARCH)により編集済み: 10/27/2022 8:39:48 PM
          Strike and gambit specific loot with actually cool and unique designs like D1 had would be a HUGE improvement. The fact that they abandoned the idea of strike specific loot in general shows how inept the devs are. Strike specific loot, gives us loot designed after boss encounters. (keep what you kill) While gambit could give us TAKEN themed loot such as weapons and armor. Another abandoned idea was SECRET MISSIONS INSIDE STRIKES. There you go, huge boost to our already stale game content that could absolutely get more people playing strikes and gambit. This took me less than 2 minutes to think of, WTF are the devs being paid for if someone like me can instantly come up with great ideas they seemingly cant come up with???

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          • They can’t focus on the core game. They’re too focused on being woke.

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            • Jet2Holidayにより編集済み: 10/28/2022 12:46:46 AM
              What Bungie needs to do, if they want to salvage this game, is to take like a 6-8 month hiatus where they pause all the seasonal "content" and concentrate on fixing this nonsense shell of a game. Refocus and really think about wtf is that they wish to accomplish with this game. Because right now it's a -blam!- mess and no one can deny it.

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            • Not returning until they do

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            • They really need to know that most people can't stick permanent to dlc content. Campaign can't be replayed, dungeons are drought out after few season, raids also does that. Meanwhile, core activities are always going to be played more because of: - Seasonal challenge - Weekly challenge - Pinnacle gear - As a repeatable content (Crucible, Gambit, Nightfall) And smh bungie is just neglecting core playlist... why? Can't really understand them unless they want people to ditch after buying one or two DLC

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            • I wouldn't mind if for one Season, we got no story, no "new" activities, no new weapons and armor, or new anything. Instead, we would just get three months of Bungie fixing current bugs and updating the core activities. Maybe even add some QOL improvements.

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              • They should remove gambit and bring back the vaulted strikes and the red war story.

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                • Bungie do, the core game is Eververse for them

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                  • Inventory management is the end game. And I agree; there could be improvements there. Everything else in the game is there to keep us busy shuffling stuff around.

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                  • Raids being easier has nothing to do with power creep, it has more to do with Repetition creep. Once you do the encounters enough its just trivial. Every mob is in the same spot, doing the same thing and being killed the same way. You just become more efficient at it.

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                    • Daemon Whiteにより編集済み: 10/27/2022 5:38:37 PM
                      Thing is, what else could they do? Gambit: Reworked and new focusing feature. Overall a fantastic rebalance but majority of people don't want to play Gambit, and get forced into it thanks to challenges. PC is split off of Console matchmaking. People might get turned off due to stomped matchups. At least it has Freelance, but that might be splitting playerbase too much right now. Crucible: Probably the most replayable due to the randomness of PvP's nature. PC is split off of Console matchmaking. Maybe streamline the amount of modes there are, too much playerbase split. Engram Focusing rework would be welcome. Strikes: Added Battlegrounds to the mix for more variety. Maybe add the Medal system from Guardian Games? Should matchmake Legend Nightfalls. Engram Focusing rework would be welcome. Mentioning the PC and Console crossplay split because, despite potential issues, it's still a decent reduction in overall playerbase availability to those playlists.

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                    • The franchise is in its winter years. I seriously doubt much will change at this stage...it wouldn't make much sense.

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                      • swirveにより編集済み: 10/27/2022 4:19:11 PM
                        Bungie needa to focus on the cheating such as cronus use on console, those who exploited regional matchmaking in trials, get rid of the cheaters and the game will see a marked improvement.

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                      • Nah, they need to focus on eververse more

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                      • The core game always needs significant updates each expansion… but content is hard and unfortunately it has been left to rot… and no bounty farming is not content

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                      • I could easily fix pvp. I could direct pvp and turn it into something classic bungie would be proud of. I would easily do a better job than whoever is running pvp right now. I also would make strikes better just by adding strike specific loot. Meatsticks need their money but don’t wanna put in the effort

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                      • Agreed. They’re are very few places to even use the 3.0 subclasses. Everywhere else you throw one grenade and everything dies.

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                      • Been asking for core system changes for months and years now.

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