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kellygreen45により編集済み:
10/22/2022 12:01:29 PM
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Been here 8 years.
They do that for a reason.
1. Twitter and Reddit are more strictly moderated, and tends to foster a more constructive dialog.
2. This place is beyond toxic. Sometimes absurdly so. People down in Off-topic just refer to this part of the forum as The Salt Mines. Whenever one of the CMs used to try to talk to us about the game, they’d just get hit with this tidal wave of toxicity and abuse. Some of it really ugly and quite personal.
Bottomline, is no one should have to put up with that simply to do their job. Putting up with it daily is not good for anyone’s health or wellbeing.
So Bungie stopped having them subject themselves to it….and I can’t really blame them.
You can only bite the hand that feeds you for so long before people stop dealing with you.
So Bungie stopped dealing with this place…sorry, but that aren’t coming back. Especially given the levels that some people were willing to take the abuse apparently….
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Pistachio Banditにより編集済み: 10/22/2022 12:56:57 PMLet me ask you this…. Do you think it’s acceptable to abandon their responsibility to administrate their own forums because some adults got their feelings hurt online by probably young (mental or actual age) kids? Shouldn’t they pass outright bans as required, just like I’m sure Reddit does? Or is it ok to not fulfill that responsibility, because, like many Bungie responsibilities, they pass it off on someone else? You know, kind of like they pretty much entirely pass off play-testing, other than validating if the patch they planned to implement actually went through or not.
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kellygreen45により編集済み: 10/22/2022 1:10:15 PM1. Yes. 2. Yes. Bungie is running a business, and what they have done is a smart business decision. Derive the benefit. Outsource the headaches and the PR nightmare. Protect your people in the process from unstable people abusing Internet anonymity. 3. Bungie doesn’t owe us interaction. That’s what so many of you fail to understand. That is a privilege, not a right. We have abused that privilege to absurd levels as a community, so Bungie took that privilege away. Actions have consequences. When you choose the actions, you choose the consequences. Bungie isn’t going to turn themselves inside out trying to police our behavior. They are just going to ignore us. That’s how Life works when you mistreat people.
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I think it is very much their responsibility to monitor these forums more adequately and personally actionably. Strict bans for severe consequences. I work in networking and blacklisting an IP is not difficult, they have access to all posting IP’s. Just this tiny bit of an effort would create a tidal wave of cleansing in here. It is kind of like how psn party chats are MUCH more tolerable nowadays now that people know psn monitors and doles out consequences to abusive behavior. I find it terribly sad that the only authoritative presence on these forums is in absolutely no way part of Bungie enterprises. They honestly should just shut the forums down entirely if this is how they want to deal with their responsibility of providing a somewhat safe area for people to chat in their domain.
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…and you have a right to that opinion. The problem is that Bungie isn’t bound by your views on this. Plus, the reality of the situation make what you’re calling for a terrible business decision that has no positive outcome for them.
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Their use of the "News" tab on the app should be expanded. Every small update they provide through their various Twitter acounts should be in the app also. Not in the forums section where users can respond and user posts can drown out the information shared. But somewhere else where players can access information between the major news announcements and TWABs. CMs keep commenting on Twitter that player issues should shared through the help forums, but that isn't going to happen as long as Bungie still uses Twitter to get essential information out. If they want us to primarily use the help forums, they need to stop sharing information on Twitter and only use it for advertising.
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Of course he thinks it's more constructive. Kelly is a sycophant that knows to fall in line and walk in lockstep. He's very proud of his ability to follow orders and accept whatever is put on his plate in front of him. He's a free-thinker, you see. His masters tell him he is so it must be true.
