How long does it take to deal that damage? Because sure total damage is similar, but dps is significantly lower.

Doesnt matter. Its a lot of damage for an add clear super.

I disagree that it's an ad clear super. Stormtrance is already an ad clear super on the same subclass. Stormcaller does not need two completely different ad clear supers. Chaos reach needs to be adjusted to fit a boss damage role better because it does not fit an ad clear super.

Bungie said its an add clear super though. All warlock supers are designed for add clear. Dawnblade is kinda useless at it now though.

Because well is ad clear.... Because nova bomb is ad clear... The super just doesn't work as ad clear. Especially on a subclass with a neutral game built around ad clear. The super's identity needs to shift away from ad clear and towards boss damage.

Well and nova are add clear yes. Both have specific exotics that give energy back based on amount of enemies killed.

The statement that we'll and nova are ad clear just annihilated any credibility you had in this conversation. I'm done here.

So them having exotics that give energy back based on add kills is a lie ? You just proved you dont think for yourself.

Nighthawk gives 33% super back on kill. So I guess thats ad clear too. Your logic is flawed, and I don't have time to argue with someone who won't admit they're wrong. I'm leaving it at that. A reply to this is a waste of your time.

chaos reach with the time you need to do that damage should deal at least with geomag 1m damage , simple and this is a fact

Except it shouldnt. Because chaos reach is add clear at base. And bungie is finally giving roles to classes... Hunter is the damage class. Warlock is ability spam and support. So chaos reach doesnt need that high damage.

Imagine a hunter main telling all the warlocks chaos reach is an ad clear super lmao. Get a brain kid, maybe before they nerfed it and it's exotic into the ground it was a better ad clear super but as of right now its neither a boss damage super nor a ad clear super because theres several better options for both. beam is too thin and nerfed the aoe damage into the ground, can't turn fast enough so you have to be super far away which decreases accuracy and instantly loses duration increase as soon as it stops damaging anything, I could bring up points about this not being an ad clear super all day, so just stop kid, how many times are you gonna get taught this lesson?

Bungie says its add clear though. Why are you blaming me? Also...doesnt turn fast enough is a you problem. Even at low sensitivity it can make 2x 360° turns.

[quote]Bungie says its add clear though. Why are you blaming me? Also...doesnt turn fast enough is a you problem. Even at low sensitivity it can make 2x 360° turns.[/quote] I see you are not smart enough to know when 4 different people have proven you wrong so I won't waste my time with another reply after this one. Just because Bungie says something doesn't make it true... you honestly think Bungie knows best? Your gonna listen to them as if they haven't blatantly lied to their playerbase and also proven multiple time they aren't always right? And blaming you for what? Im just tired of you telling warlocks what chaos reach is when you dont have a clue, you sound like a democrat or liberal playing the victim like that. Bungie doesn't even know what chaos reach is at this point because when it first came out and for the longest time after it was a boss dps super that could also double as an ad clear if wanted, Bungie showcased it as a boss super because when forsaken came out all the videos showed it damaging bosses, not ads. it had awesome versatility and viability which was refreshing. Now even with the 3.0 changes the gutting they did to chaos reach still has it in the ground. Yes it lasts longer but only because they had to do something after destroying its exotic and everything else about the subclass. 2x 360 turns... not if you want to actually damage anything lol, it's way too inconsistent and now you're just reaching... just stop kid. Go back to playing your squishy hunter.

You say people proved me wrong. But you have someone over there claiming you cant turn off chaos reach halfway and save super. And 2 others just not accepting facts. Also...even if they were right. Thats 4 out of millions

Regardless of them, I myself know better and have proved you wrong so doesn't really matter to me anymore, have a good one kid.

You havent proved me wrong though. Chaos reach can get canceled early which is for when you killed all adds.. And it explodes killed enemies...which is also for adds. Both of those traits are useless on bosses.

[quote]You havent proved me wrong though. Chaos reach can get canceled early which is for when you killed all adds.. And it explodes killed enemies...which is also for adds. Both of those traits are useless on bosses.[/quote] I will be damned before I let a braindead hunter think he knows more about warlocks then I do. At this point though you're just reaching desperately for anything to help your failing argument and soon you'll just be trolling because I am vastly more Intelligent then you, especially on this subject. I have proven you wrong multiple times now, youre just too ignorant to realize that among the idiot warlocks you've argued with on here I am the top dog and will always be right when it comes to these discussions about warlocks because I have mained one since 2014. None of the other idiot warlocks have provided the info that I have or the take that I have on the subclass. I obsessed over chaos reach because it was my favorite super in the game by far... and now it's a shell of its former self. I will once again tell you that's its design is a hybrid of both boss damage and add clear. It's perfectly capable of both, but it leans towards boss damage because of its design, Bungie can say its for as clear all they want but until they make it more useful for that it will always primarily be for bosses and tanky enemies that have big health bars. Next youll be trying to tell me stormtrance is for boss damage 💀💀💀. Yes it explodes enemies and can be cancelled, thats part of its utility as a hybrid super for bosses and ads, it doesnt chain the explosions though and cancelling can be used literally for any reason besides just ads, maybe the boss or tanky yellowbar got melted? Lol pretty simple. here's the thing though brainless one, Geomags are less inconsistent for ads... more consistent for bosses. You can get the full duration use when damaging a boss using reach with geos... but there has to be a literal army of ads for it to do the same thing and even then it doesn't seem to last as long. Test it out and then try and say i havent proven you wrong you insolent clown.

You are just proving me right by getting mad over facts here. Only people who are mad insult others. And intelligent people dont get mad.

[quote]You are just proving me right by getting mad over facts here. Only people who are mad insult others. And intelligent people dont get mad.[/quote] 💀💀💀 the most ignorant thing you've said so far. I'm dying... simply hilarious. the butthurt words of a man who has been thoroughly defeated. Have a good one lad. 😉

You havent proven me wrong and i am not hurt though. You seem like the hurt one because you cant admit you were proven wrong. And you said you were a warlock main since d1....D1 didnt have chaos reach.

[quote]You havent proven me wrong and i am not hurt though. You seem like the hurt one because you cant admit you were proven wrong. And you said you were a warlock main since d1....D1 didnt have chaos reach.[/quote] I have many times over you're just in denial and apparantly always will be. You have yet to elaborate on how you have proven me wrong child. And yeah no kidding numb nuts, my point is I know more about this game then you ever will.