Hahaha laugh at me I'm so bad. Now remove pvp it's horrible Bungie. You think this game would be this toxic if you didn't have it? You think pve raiders or whatever are the gamers who threatened your studio? How about the paid carry problems or the toxic community members harassing players over things like they're terrible .83 kd? You think pve focused players use cheats? No. It's a pvp problem. Pvp is toxic. Just a fact at this point.
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[quote]Hahaha laugh at me I'm so bad. Now remove pvp it's horrible Bungie. You think this game would be this toxic if you didn't have it? You think pve raiders or whatever are the gamers who threatened your studio? How about the paid carry problems or the toxic community members harassing players over things like they're terrible .83 kd? You think pve focused players use cheats? No. It's a pvp problem. Pvp is toxic. Just a fact at this point.[/quote] Someone has clearly never met the specimens that are some raid farmers, speedrunners and low-man enthusiasts. Oh and the average Joe on d2 lfg with the overinflated ego because they did 1 flawless raid or something
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3 通の返信I would like to get rid of PVE, because the PVE players complain about everything
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3 通の返信PVE players are just as Bad mate. Kicking players Before the Final chest in Raids, GM's, Dungeons. Kicking players after 1 Failure. Verbally Abusive in Chat. "Toxicity" isn't exclusive to PVP.
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6 通の返信Technically speaking it’s still a positive KD. It’s above 0. So I mean that’s a win? Right?
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1 返信Practically all of these things still happen in PvE, they just aren’t as visible because there’s no sense of competition in PvE so it mostly is swept under the rug. -There are PvE cheaters, they have to rigorously vet World’s First raid completions because of this. -There are paid PvE carries for difficult content -There are toxic PvE players who harass devs -K/D isn’t a thing but raid completions, completion times, titles, etc. are all used to gatekeep and make players feel superior all the same. Gamers are toxic. The guise of anonymity leads to toxicity.
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15 通の返信Yeah pvp is the only thing making this community toxic [spoiler]gjallarhorn or kick kwtd or kick Must have X clears No hunters[/spoiler]
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1 返信Look I'm bad at pvp and I can still play good at times. you have very few options either don't play it or just get better
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1 返信You just need the right community homie. Over at Shrouded Gaming were currently building a PVP community that doesn't tolerate the most toxic behaviors your referring to. Come check out Shrouded Mayhem.
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3 通の返信I generally give salutes to people in pvp. I think building a more positive experience will help even a little bit. Had a low kd player on my team in a solo trials game and he just apologized saying he was the reason we were losing. I told him don’t worry about it, we can win it, you’re good. We got thrashed, still told him gg and to have a good night. Crucible is busted and there is no fixing it. But what can be fixed is needless toxicity.
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[quote]Hahaha laugh at me I'm so bad. Now remove pvp it's horrible Bungie. You think this game would be this toxic if you didn't have it? You think pve raiders or whatever are the gamers who threatened your studio? How about the paid carry problems or the toxic community members harassing players over things like they're terrible .83 kd? You think pve focused players use cheats? No. It's a pvp problem. Pvp is toxic. Just a fact at this point.[/quote] I got to say you're doing pretty damn good job at contributing to the toxicity associated with this segment of the Destiny community.. so does that mean that deep down you're a PvP player?
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If you hate pvp, just don't play it. Stay far away from it and ruining other players lobbies with your ineptness. Subsequently, stop posting and complaining about it. You're part of the issue. PvE, negative kd players who spend very, very little time in the actual crucible always want to complain.
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This post is oozing. Secreting pure toxicity. KWTD OR KICK. Have "x" loadout or kick. Have x clears. The superiority complex of PVE mains is, IMO, way more toxic than the majority of pvp players. Imagine your enemy having the exact same gameplan evvverry single time..for years..stops being challenging/fun after a while. Congratulations on those clears👏 So what you got bagged by a 12 year old in Kazakhstan. It is not that serious. With the introduction of matchmaking/flawless pool/solo queue in trials..no player gets left behind. To even get the flawless seal requires helping players who have never been flawless. 'High skill" players can, and do, gatekeep end game PvE way more easily/frequently than PvP these days. As far as cheating.. nah I'm just not doing that mess... The same recovery services you reference will scoop you a vex or a godroll for ridiculous sums of money. 🤦
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1 返信Well… maybe don’t act like you know what’s best for pvp. I doubt ppl just randomly look up a .8 kd player on Nessus just to mock them. You obviously stepped outside of your comfort zone and into a place that you have no experience in just to act like you know what you’re talking about. So, In other words, while you were being toxic to the playlist, the playlist mains likely demolished your argument, starting with your KD.
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8 通の返信I'm laughing at you, not because you have a 0.83 kd but because you think half the game should be removed just because you're not good at it.
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1 返信Lにより編集済み: 8/9/2022 6:38:31 PM[quote]Pvp is toxic.[/quote] If you put anyone in a competitive situation against another person regardless of its a video game or not, there’s always going to be some tension/toxicness. It’s like saying chess should be banned because its competitive with people playing against each other, it just doesn’t make sense.
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I went through your stats and obviously, you didn't play that much of pvp. You need to play A LOT to get better. You need to commit, especially now, when so many people use cheese tacticts. You need to practice. The most important question is - are you having fun playing pvp? If the answer is no, then just ignore it. Play for the challenges and get out. Most of those guys with high kds play pvp more than pve.
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Ehy Guardian. I understand your frustation and I know this is a rant. There are sides of this game that bring out the worst of us all, both in PvP [i](toxicity and all PvP issues)[/i] and PvE [i](elitist, LFG KWTD posts ecc)[/i]. Destiny 2 is not perfect and part of its community is toxic. And this is true for every other on-line game out there. Unfortunately you can't change this. You can only avoid to do the same things and find your way to don't let the toxicity to get you and ruin your in-game experience. I know this is not much, but I hope it will help =/
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I too, do not like PVP. But, to earn experience I have been going into the crucible and playing. I honestly do not know my stats because I do not care, but in a couple rounds I scored kills, helped my team win and had a somewhat ok time. If I can't kill, I try and sneak over and covert a site to my team. I try and stay close to the higher players and sneak in a kill. I get one shot every single time it seems, and frankly the cross map long range sniper shots are full B.S. but that's the same in ANY pvp game. I surprise and kill more than I have seen anyone even close to being a cheater. I know I am not GUD and frankly, between the lag, the mixing of console and PC players, and the fact that some weapons are one shot wonders, its no surprise that the CHEATER rant is out there. No, I don't think that there are many cheaters. I never have seen anyone go over 25-30 kills in a round. If they were on shot, through the walls, uber cheaters, they would be 100+ in a round.
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5 通の返信I've faced monumentally more toxicity in the PVE space. Any kind of ism there is to race, -blam!-, i've heard it on a raid, dungeon or nightfall. There's the kwtd crowd. The won't help anyone. Won't wait for people to complete jumping puzzle crowd. There's the people that will boot if you fail a single encounter and those that even do it when it's their own fault for failing. The people that won't let you in a nightfall or raid without forcing you to use this gun or that gun or berate you for the non meta gun you want to use. The people that will curse at you because you don't want to play the class you like, the element you like. There's toxicity everywhere. It's not just pvp people.