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12HT DIESEL GOATにより編集済み:
7/8/2022 10:45:28 PM
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Healing in crucible is a little excessive
scummy hunter player here that enjoys a bit of pvp.
just wanted to hear peoples opinions on the excessive and often very oppressive state of healing in crucible right now, to put it in perspective classy restoration is in essence pre nerf OG wormhusk crown. For the cost of one mod slot you can make your class item almost as powerful as a pre nerf exotic armour piece that has been nerfed i think twice? now pair that with healing grenades wich ironically have the fastest cooldown and were getting pretty toasty. I just worry that for example things like lorelli may be nerfed again for our titan players when the mods the problem and the exotic seems fine on its own. This mod also doesent play fair for warlocks, they have a far longer class ability cooldown and dropping a healing rift to not use it so you can have 5 secs of recov seems counterintuitive so i feel they havent seen any of the enormous benefit hunters and titans have. So what are peoples thoughts? do you think final column artifact mods such as classy restoration should function in the pvp landscape? i personally dont like it much but perhaps other players have a different take on it and enjoy it :) let me know
Thanks guys! :)
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2 通の返信Echozにより編集済み: 7/11/2022 9:17:46 PMClassy restoration is unique and is a one time season thing. Unfortunately, you won't see it nerfed or removed until after the season. I agree it is a healing meta rn and it is bad, but knowing bungie from D1 to D2 now, they don't care. They have a lot on their plate already, but to slow to fix issues in the PVP.
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My thoughts on this is the same as they were years ago, it's impossible to fix. Every time something powerful gets nerfed its counter becomes the new power. Bungie thinks its about give and take but its about "rock, paper, scissors" in how to tune the different powers/weapons so that they all have strengths [b][u]and[/u][/b] weaknesses.
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1 返信Classy is actually pretty decent on dawnblade if you use empowering rift to make yourself a discount well of radiance. But otherwise, not worth using on Warlock. One thing though: Classy doesn't affect lorely splendor at all. It already grants restoration x2 at base, which means it'll still be just as strong if nothing is done after the artifact gets changed again.
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Yeah, healing is wild right now. I’m a Gunslinger main, and I haven’t used the mod or healing grenades. Also played on my Titan a good bit to fool around with lorely. The helmet is definitely a bit too good in PvP, and there are definitely gunfights I should have by all means lost without it. I like the idea of Titans being tanks, but between this and when void 3.0 came out with Bastion, I understand why resilience has done anything up until now. How did Bungie look at the 3 other times we got restoration when using class abilities as a mod and go “ Yeah, we need to bring it back again bois!”. At least the first time around with solar subclasses, solar was mid at best for Hunters. At best, you will be mildly annoyed after killing a bad player, and at worst you’ll get dunked on by a Wormhusk+Restoration dodge everytime. Haven’t played my Warlock yet, but I’ve definitely heard how other classes are healing better than Warlocks, and it definitely feels like that just from playing PvP a lot.
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10 通の返信Bungie could just nuke Crucible off the face of the earth. The 70k-ish concurrent players each day will find something better to play, and PvE can stop being held back by subpar multiplayer.
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15 通の返信WulfPak666により編集済み: 7/9/2022 4:26:40 AMFunny. I thought Warlocks were supposed to be the best healing class, yet all I ever hear about are restoration Hunter's and Lorelei Titans 🤔
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2 通の返信I'm a big fan of how everybody dismissed Solar 3.0 at launch, particularly the changes to healing tree abilities, until the build crafters went to work and now we got complaints about the very thing this community swore was dead.
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I agree it is, but 5 years of d2 showed very clearly crucible issue like this does not ever get fixed without the whole thing nerfed to -blam!- in pve, and before people think well maybe they can just disable it in PVP, they can, and they never do
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change "a little" to "ridiculously" and i will agree. This games pvp is a clown fiesta now. Everyone running high stats for abilitites for a reason. They have WAY too low cooldowns and are way too strong in general. Heal nades everywhere, restoration on class abilities, void overshields. Ohk ability spam in general. This games pvp is a completely lost cause. I will not play it anymore anywhere close to as much as i used to. I have 200k+ kills in pvp so i played a decent amount. Now i have 0 hours in pvp for months. I loved destiny for the gunplay. That's irrelvant now since ppl can just ability spam instead. Don't think Bungie can bring that fun gunplay pvp back after all these cheesy ability implementations.
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3 通の返信The bungie test team was definitely on holiday when the released classy restoration.
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now you know how warlocks felt being in a support role for raids all those times jk but for real i get it's a pain but its a mechanic that is nobody can win one one wants it gone the other wants to keep it you get what im saying.
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8 通の返信
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I played some survival today for the first time in a while and was surprised how classy restoration worked. Maxed my mobility and put on sixth coyote.. any time I was outgunned I just dodged away and regrouped. It’s way better than going invis.
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2 通の返信The PvP team is new I think, maybe interns. That would explain the intern level work they are putting out. It is possible that PvP was given to another team…like accounting.
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1 返信A KOOL POP TARTにより編集済み: 7/9/2022 5:07:40 PM[url=https://youtu.be/8sOMp9IRxBc]POV: You are a Void Hunter fighting a Solar Restoration Titan[/url]
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The devs have found a way to make pvp even shittier. If their goal is to make pvp completely undesirable they're killing it. Each season it gets more -blam!- up then the previous. From weapon balancing being nonexistent. The range on most weapons and drop off damage being -blam!- to now instant full health on a kill. They make every mode a skill less effortless game. You just need to run their crutch bullshit. Matchmaking is a once sided joke. Ima competitive person and like going against people on my level, but that never happens. I hate pvp and gambit because its always onesided and full of crutch bullshit. The devs all need to be replaced with people who actually play the game and wanna see it live up to its potential.
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2 通の返信Bungid doesnt care about the game or us. They only care about our wallets. STOP BUYING STUPID EMBLEMS AND BULLSHIT FROM THEM. Of Course the healing is excessive and broken. They couldn't make a good crucible meta, game, matchmaking, respawn, connection or anything else because they are stupid and don't care.
