IMO if anyone has this FOMO, you are playing the wrong game. FOMO is a self control issue that I have never had especially with the work Bungie has produced.
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Most know, but everyone should know how gaming works these days. If players have an addiction and complain to the point that it's beyond complaining about a developer using "FOMO", especially knowing this new Bungie that literally does not care what anyone thinks about them using it. That right there tells me they don't want help, and I have no sympathy for anyone that refuses to help themselves and continues to keep putting themselves in a situation they are fully aware of that is not healthy for them. We are responsible for our actions despite any company using FOMO to their advantage, period.
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[quote]IMO if anyone has this FOMO, you are playing the wrong game. FOMO is a self control issue that I have never had especially with the work Bungie has produced.[/quote] It’s not “ALL” a self control issue. Like with anything, Drugs, Alcohol, Gambling etc. anyone with an addictive personality can get addicted to these things. Bungie literally hired psychologists who specialize in exploiting the addictive section of the brain to keep players engaged in their games. Every Corporation does this, EA included. Why do you think EA is hell bent on repeating the lie that “nobody wants Single Player Games anymore”? Cause they want players addicted to their live service games to keep them alive despite the successes of Fallen Order, Elden Ring, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War etc. Corps like Bungie can’t keep profiting off of Single Player Games cause they are a “one and done” Games that nobody touches after they play said Single Player Game and beat it. Bungie’s only interested in money, nothing else. So they’ll get everyone addicted as possible to their garbage game. I took two years off this game and the only reason I’m playing again is cause a friend bought me the DLCs for my newly built PC cause I refuse to pay for DLC personally after they introduced the Content Vault and vaulted bought and paid for content. That shít is unacceptable.
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Not that I disbelieve that psychologists have been involved in video game development, because developers definitely have reasons to involve their consultations. But where did you find this information that Bungie has employed psychologists with expertise in exploiting the brains’ quirks?
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[quote]Not that I disbelieve that psychologists have been involved in video game development, because developers definitely have reasons to involve their consultations. But where did you find this information that Bungie has employed psychologists with expertise in exploiting the brains’ quirks?[/quote] https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/02/bungie-used-behavioral-psychology-to-make-destiny-appealing
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[quote]Dr. John Hopson is the head of user research at Bungie, creators of the popular Halo series of video games. In the past, Dr. Hopson was the lead researcher for a wide variety of games ranging from AAA blockbusters (Halo, Age of Empires) to small indie games (Trials HD, Crimson: Steam Pirates). [b]He also is the author of a number of articles on the intersection of psychology and games, including the infamous “Behavioral Game Design.”[/b] Dr. Hopson holds a Ph.D. in behavioral and brain sciences from Duke University and is the former chair of the International Game Developers Association’s Games User Research Special Interest Group. He is currently at work on Bungie’s upcoming game, Destiny.[/quote] https://www.abainternational.org/constituents/bios/johnhopson.aspx [quote]Speaking at GDC 2015, Bungie's John Hopson discussed how the developer so carefully created a game meant to hook players and keep them coming back time after time. The answer? Behavioral game design, the study of linking behavioral psychology to the tasks and rewards in game and observing a person's reactions and behaviors once faced with them.[/quote] https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/02/bungie-used-behavioral-psychology-to-make-destiny-appealing I remember when the 2nd one (about him speaking at the 2015 GDC) came up in the forums and a sizable amount of people around here seemed surprised about it. I just figured those who were surprised were probably still relatively young people.
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[quote] But where did you find this information that Bungie has employed psychologists with expertise in exploiting the brains’ quirks? [/quote] All video games do this. No... All companies in every field that sells a product to living things does this. It's not a big "uh oh big bad bungie preying on our dumb brain" Everything from the colors of mcdonald's logo to the sound that's made when an exotic drop to the feeling of bullet impact when shooting all have marketing or psychological teams of some kind behind them. If they didn't everything would suck
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TheShadowにより編集済み: 7/7/2022 10:59:40 PM[quote]It’s not “ALL” a self control issue. Like with anything, Drugs, Alcohol, Gambling etc. anyone with an addictive personality can get addicted to these things. [/quote] And just like with anything anyone can get help. It is literally up to the person that has whatever issue if they want that help or not. The majority of it is self-control whether you accept it or not. How do you think people that have addictions like drugs or Alcohol stay sober? [spoiler]Self-control.[/spoiler] And trying to compare FOMO to Drugs or Alcohol addictions is asinine🤦♂️
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It's not asinine at all. An addict's response to almost all addictions are very similar in their nature. Surely severity is different, but the concept is the same. With this logic, let's make all substances legal, after all seller has no responsibility of the tactic they employ the sell. If someone is hiring a professional to exploit your weaknesses as a person, it might legal but sure hell as not ethical. But most business don't concern themselves things like ethics as long as it's not legal requirement.
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[quote]But most business don't concern themselves things like ethics as long as it's not legal requirement.[/quote] Yet, these addict's as you put it continue to put themselves in the same situation. When does it come to the point that ( those addicts take responsibility for their own actions?) I agree developers are going about gaming the wrong way these days, but no one is forcing anyone to do anything. That is a choice... Are you going to blame all the casinos for you blowing all your money on the slot machines knowing they are literally designed to be in the casino's favor? because that is what you are doing with Bungie. Just using you as an example, not saying this is you. (You know it's wrong, you know how it affects you, yet you keep playing when you literally have a choice.)
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[quote]Yet, these addict's as you put it continue to put themselves in the same situation. When does it come to the point that ( those addicts take responsibility for their own actions?)[/quote] Sorry bro, but this is an ignorant reply who has never read a single things about this issues. Did you know that an addict's brain chemistry is different than of person with no issues? Their brain does no longer produce certain hormones (seratonin) to begin with, which is why they require medicines that does it for them literally kickstart hormone production. Moreover, half of these people are kids that are not even aware of their problem with parents equally uneducated on these things. Making blanket statements like this doesnt help anyone. an addict might have the best intentions but cannot folow through many reasons. Practices like this, especially when the laws around it is still developing, is just predatory. [quote]Are you going to blame all the casinos for you blowing all your money on the slot machines knowing they are literally designed to be in the casino's favor?[/quote] Are the casionos letting anyone get in from any age? Because you can play Destiny regardless of your age, and that is easiest way to get anyone addicted to anything by affecting them in their childhood. [quote]Just using you as an example, not saying this is you. (You know it's wrong, you know how it affects you, yet you keep playing when you literally have a choice.)[/quote] This applies for adults, and I agree but what I dont agree is putting back on the players in a "blanket statement" where the players can be as low as 11-12 years olds pushing their moms to buy a game. If getting over addiction was that easy, we really wouldnt have any addicts.
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[quote]Sorry bro, but this is an ignorant reply who has never read a single things about this issues[/quote] I stopped reading right here. I don't care what you read, and if you haven't experienced any of the issues you are referring to. You literally have no clue about anything you are talking about. I've been around AA for 40 years, I think I have a much better understanding than you will ever reading anything. Nothing bothers me more when people try to act like they know what they are talking about to "look good".
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Sorry to tell you buddy but what you think you know and what you actually know are 2 differnet things. You showed how ignorant you are by dismissing something before reading it while still talking non sense. I have been around lawyers for 40 years, maybe I should go to court and claim I am one.
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You are right I dismissed it because you literally only said "I read a book" Impressive feedback when the reality here is that you only painted half a picture, blaming someone else for your own actions. Sorry, that isn't how the world works.
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the book comment? never said that, but isnt it easier when you can make up your own story and lie why you didnt read instead of be honest. Which seem to be a pattern for you. your replies show how much you know and how much you want others to think you know. next time, dont open your mouth on things you dont know jack about. That helps a lot.