{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
7/5/2022 10:19:47 AM
50
Why is flawless pool a bad thing?
I see a lot of negativity in regards to it and wondering why.
To me, it keeps the 500+ flawless people in their own games and away from people trying to crawl to a measly single flawless
English
#destiny2
-
3 通の返信Bluebairyにより編集済み: 7/6/2022 8:39:45 PMInstead of being another person that doesn’t play pvp and doesn’t know they are talking about saying its because “the sweats” dont like playing people their own skill level, the real issue with flawless pool is its essentially pvp hell. Every match is people camping in spawn and only peeking with op special weapons and one shot abilities. Friends who aren’t as good as you don’t want to play with you. So if you dont want to play in pvp hell (flawless pool) your only options are reset and dont go flawless or do what I do and just don’t touch trials after Sunday at reset. I hate not playing because I do enjoy trials but dont want to put myself through hell to do it
-
22 通の返信because the game shouldn't be harder cause you're good for the same rewards. imagine GMs getting harder if you've done it that season..
-
2 通の返信Unbreakable Patchesにより編集済み: 7/5/2022 11:44:00 AMAfter shitstomping a handful of groups of average at best players, top percent players have to actually try. They don’t like having to try, so they complain.
-
Trials players hate it because it will ruin their KD and ELO stats. People forget it's a game and not real life, and obsess over being in the 1%, which is more difficult to do when you're matched against equally skilled players. They would rather 1 win reset or card reset carries in order to keep their KD high and ELO high. All the larger streamers where playing in the flawless pool and I have never heard so much complaining. To the point I unfollowed most of them. Either they know that Bungie is mixing things up soon or just seeing what was happening. But the crying about it was cringe.
-
4 通の返信Bc: It reduces the # of paid services required. How dare people go flawless without paying me Trials is for the best of the best, except the best don’t want to play the best. They’d rather reset their cards and stomp the non-flawless pool
-
3 通の返信if there is one thing I have learned from destiny about high skill players is they live of this one single idea "challenge for thee but nor for me". If they see someone lower skill then them playing the same activity it is ok for them to have free wins all day long but it isn't ok for that person they get free wins from to want a fair game.
-
2 通の返信They are crying about it cause it doesn't allow them to stomp noobs. Oh well, sorry they have to play against people of their own skill which essentially is non-flawless people playing against their own too. There's no valid reason why someone after going flawless can't play against others in the same position. If you are getting flawless you should accept the downside to it and not cry about it. Most peoplebin the non-flawless pool are those who can't get to flawless no matter how hard they try. Which they should be pinned against other people of the same position, not against sweaty streamers.
-
4 通の返信
-
29 通の返信Low skilled players rely on it so they don't have to see real trials players. Meanwhile, it makes it far more sweaty for the people that are in it, for no extra rewards for being there. Everyone should play everyone. Or there should be adequate rewards to match being in the flawless pool with the real players
-
1 返信
-
1 返信Because it make sweats having to actually play and not rely on bad matchmaking Same reason why they always cry against SBMM
-
9 通の返信Flawless pool makes it so that people that go flawless have to actually try in their games to continue going flawless on subsequent cards that weekend. That's about the jist of why they hate it. It also makes it so that people who have not gone flawless actually have a chance at flawless loot, which they also hate.
-
I don’t mind flawless pool, I feel like flawless card farming should give you a weapon every win. I’ve been on some crazy win streaks and had poor drop rates post game. I mean grandmaster has a 100% drop rate now.
-
2 通の返信
-
1 返信All you have to do is throw a match, get 7 wins on a card with 1 loss and you can farm loot till your hearts content without being stuck in the flawless pool. I feel like the best players would know this and wouldn’t bother going flawless till the end of the weekend to avoid being stuck in the flawless pool. You don’t have to reset your card, you just have to have 1 loss.
-
Trials should change so that games before flawless stay as is. But once you get 7 flawless wins you are automatically taken to the lighthouse and able to play ranked trials. Lets see who the best really is. Being able to reset and stomp solo teams, 2 xbox with a psn to use lag factor etc, all these do is demonstrate your ability to use holes in bungies system - not you pvp abilities. Lets make it a proper leaderboard of the best players. And no, I wouldn’t be on it - but from someone who never watches utube I’d watch that.
-
Althanashにより編集済み: 7/5/2022 2:05:06 PMDo you really want to be told why? Edit: It's bad because it gives Bungie a free pass to not fix PvP match making across the board. Sure it divides the playlists but then you go from having a match making issue to facing every broken meta in a pool where the gear carried the players and not skill. Bring back SBMM by all means with connectivity accounted for. But remove the flawless pool / freelance pool / then take out the 50% win rate limits / The god awful lobby balancing and fix the broken sandbox that was never tested. Once that's done. The community should get a choice. You can either get 1 or the other. Freelance in all playlists or a Flawless pool and equivalent in all playlists. You can't have both.
-
8 通の返信Gilgameshにより編集済み: 7/5/2022 10:18:01 PM[quote]I see a lot of negativity in regards to it and wondering why. To me, it keeps the 500+ flawless people in their own games and away from people trying to crawl to a measly single flawless[/quote] You just answered your own question, it places the people who actually play the mode into only sweat lobbies do that lower skill players can have a easier time reaching flawless. And this was asked for not by the PvP community who the mode is for but the PvE one who dont play PvP for fun. Imagine if GMs or Raids were changed to be more accessible for PvP or Solo players, it would remove most of the fun for you in those modes. Ignore all the people who say “oh KD this and ELO that” they have 0 clue what they are talking about and only assume none of them are PvP players they are all PvE players with the stereotypical view of PvP players. Go watch streamers who play PvP yourself youll see they are really different then how people describe them as they dont care about KD or Elo half the time they use meme loadouts and just try to have fun
