Matchmaking will never be fixed without dedicated servers. P2P connection limits matchmaking.

They would do it long ago if it was possible bro. Nowadays the game lost its casual population to the point that the natural selection becomes the usual thing. This game is very addictive and the PvP sweats will never leave it as the pve maniacs. If you want fair and welcoming game Destiny 2 is the worst choice. Based on the all time general Destiny history I can say that things like dedicated servers and proper matchmaking in PvP will never happen. So if you hate the game on its current state finish what you have to finish and move on. There are other really great games that deserve your attention. Destiny will always have a special place in our heart but let's be fair - the people who created the masterpiece Destiny 1 obviously never worked on Destiny 2...

I wonder if a level system like Halo 2 or 3 could work? Get matched with your level (or a ten level difference) Personally I have no issues with the matchmaking. Just a thought though

There's a reason they're not addressing it. The game loses so many players to attrition that it cannot sustain a "healthy" population of [u]all[/u] skill levels. All you have playing the game are mostly diehards. PvE diehards and PVP diehards. The pvp dudes have a natural advantage bc they have the experince and playtime. When PvE mains step into PvP, it's usually a stomp. There are some players truly gifted at both, but that's pretty rare. There is a large disparity in skill between pvp mains and pve mains. I have an old freind from years back that mains pvp and his kd is fn 4.88. He rly is just that good. 5 years ago, I was better than him. He kept at pvp and is just insane now That's the issue. Unfortunately, there are not enough "blueberries" for the PVE mains to dunk on, so now THEY are the pvp blueberries that get dunked on by pvp mains. There is very little they will do as long as ppl play pvp in some form. Eduring the pain for pinnacles and so on perpetuates the peoblem. You have to get out of the playlists. I suggest if you don't like the pvp experince, don't play. I have not set foot in there since about halfway through last season. Got a few solo flawlesses, but beyond that, it's a mess. 1.0 and below should never play a 2.0, but that's the norm. Let alone dudes with 4.88 type of numbers. Many players are playing this rift nonsense and going througb utter pain for a text string under their name. As long as you participate in that, you're part of the problem as well. If you want change, stop playing it.

I'd prefer to wait 15 minutes for matchmaking to drop into a lagged lobby after a lagged lobby where opponents take no damage and shooy through walls. Matchmaking is broken. We desperately need a proper CBMM.

Or, how about this, I have a better idea. Check this out…. Maybe try to get better at the game?

The first negative comment I hear from anyone I get into D2 is "man, PvP sucks". No matter what the streamers and sweats say, being curb stomped by stacks isn't fun and it doesn't make you better.

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Actually it's the other way around. Massive content drops need to happen for pvp bringing in more players to support a healthy matchmaking algoryth is needed before anything. If you change the algorythm with a non existing playerbase, it will only result in long queue times. 1 garbage rift map after almost 4 years of nothing isn't remotely good enough. Especially after them previously deleting 11 maps.

I agree I rather play people of my skill level than have bots when playing 3stacks

Well unfortunately they have known they have match making issues since D2 came out. As long as they keep raking in the money they wont do a thing about it. Really tired of getting matched against flawless trials try hards and cheats. First it was the competitive crucible and the choice to remove progress with each loss, than the pinnacle weapons taking over every aspect of the game. The return of trials and again a -blam!- show. Now its gee the match making pool is to small. The Devs created it, just like they created seals with Grandmaster requirements, less than 3.7% of the player base has The Prestige trophy for a grandmaster nightfall. When is Sony going to start managing this game because Bungie can create a great game concept, but cant seem to manage a long term plan.

Honestly, their matchmaking will remain somewhat piss poor until they decide to invest in dedicated servers which will likely be never. Their version of CBMM which is preferable in a P2P environment, doesn't make a single effort to AT LEAST balance the lobbies. This is why many matches are often blowouts. Because of P2P, their SBMM is a no go, because the higher you climb, the more lag you see because you're matched with people all around the world and one of you gets the lag advantage. Nothing more demoralizing than seeing a Guardian from the other side of the world teleporting across the map after taking 10 rounds to the head like nothing happened. Tl;dr Crucible is -blam!- and the only thing worthwhile about Destiny anymore is the story narrative.

Hubris! Nobly spoken. 🙏

Agree 100% with you OP. Bungle is to arrogant and invested in content creators to even care about their main player base.

My personal favorite change, was putting 6v6 back into the game. Then making sure that most of the maps in rotation are tied specifically to the SMALLEST maps in the map pool. The Matchmaking is -blam!-, the map rotation/choices are -blam!-, the lag is -blam!-, the competitive game modes are -blam!-. All of which as utterly sad considering that if this game had been given appropriate love, it probably would have been one of the best FPS shooters in terms of competitive play.