"Waaaaaah everything that kills me is broken waaaaah"

It is but GL and fusions are just as bad

You can literally use any type of gun and it’ll smack harder then will smith. Just gotta be in the right archetype. Certain rpm’s just ain’t the strongest.

Fusions and Snipers aren't so bad. But the others are passed being old.

Not trying to be rude, but you listed a lot of the weapon options in the game. There’s only so much variety as far as weapons go, so you’re going to see a LOT of the same things. It’s not something to complain about. Here’s a list of every weapon type in Destiny 2: [b]Primary Weapons[/b]: Hand cannon Sidearm Submachine gun Scout Rifle Pulse Rifle Auto Rifle Bow [b]Special Weapons[/b]: Shotgun Fusion Rifle Sniper Linear Fusion Rifle (only 2 special LFRs in the game currently) Trace Rifle Grenade Launcher Glaive [b]Heavy Weapons[/b]: Sword Grenade Launcher Rocket Launcher Linear Fusion Rifle Machine Gun Sniper (only 2 in the game) Bow (only 1 in the game)

I’m sorry but other primaries can compete with hc, just play to their advantages, fast rof pulses are probably the closest to hc play style High impact pluses (TTK 0.67, 2 burst) | 1.2TTK b - 39.1m (messenger)* Rapid pulse 0.8 TTK (7c 2b, 3 burst) | 1.4 TTK b - 36.5m (piece of mind)* Multimach 0.67 TTK (9c 2b) | 1.13 TTK b - 25.7m Shayura’s 0.8 TTK (7c 2b) | 1.1 TTK b - 28m 120 HC 1.0 TTK (2c 1b) | 1.5 TTK b - 39.3m (igneous hammer)* 140 HC 0.87 TTK (3c) | 1.73 TTK b - 36.1 (Pali highest 3 crit of all 140s)* DMT 0.8 TTK (2c 1b) | 1.63 TTK b - it’s a scout ads range is always enough 600 autos 0.8 TTK (8c 1b) | 1.3 TTK b - 27.8m * 720 autos 0.77 TTK (9c 1b) | 1.17 TTK b - 24.3m * *I did not use fullbore w/ HC & the pulses/autos both had Chambered comp or arrowhead* ^ the auto ranges can go higher than what I put here, put stability perks mostly, used d2 gunsmith

Pulses are viable very viable... Are you bad?

I’m raising my hand to get actual talent and leadership on the PvP team. Lol wow are they not good at what they do.

There's plenty of pulse rifles that can you use to counter the meta right now: piece of mind (overflow w/ elemental capacitor or focused fury), Vigilance Wing, The Messenger, Legal Action, Outbreak Perfected in the right circumstances, etc. As for the shotgun problem i mostly blame the maps themselves for how they're designed. They encourage a shotgun using play-style cause of how close quarters most of the maps are. There's two two or three maps i can think in the current sandbox that allow you to use snipers freely without fear of getting abused by shotguns.

Piece of mind is everywhere what you talking about Willis.

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Like seriously, you want to have people play with trace, sidearm, grenade launchers and machine guns only?

That's half the weapons in the game dude.

I’m seeing tons of pulse rifle usage too Ur complaining about 75% of the available guns to use, think about that for a second. U want someone to use double primaries and do auto/pulse? Lmao cmon

The crucible needs a bit for work for sure. I'm hoping in the next seasons that they mentioned it gets looked at... a lot. I think people don't really grasp what balance is. Generally speaking as far as this game is concerned, it's issues tie to range and ease of use. On the other side it's what bungie whats the game to end up being with the communities idea of fun. HCs are fun to use with a lot of forgiveness at range but sense dictates something with iron sights and that much kick back isn't exactly a precision weapon. FRs don't require precision and with the map design and movement in this game, well let's just say charge time doesn't necessarily equal skill. The other player has to work way more to play out of their range or make them waste shots because it covers most ranges in this game for less work. That just sounds like a heavy slotted weapon to me. As for shotguns the range with pellet spread isn't really isn't disagreeable. More often then not it's the slide movement in this game that ties with it. Players can really cover a lot of ground slide into your dm's and your done on top of that in the same motion they are already scooping up your ammo. Personally I think there should be a full second between slides and a lil less accuracy while sliding. Bows are a hybrid weapon. Le monarque is pretty much a special weapon with infinite ammo. The only way I can see it balanced without absolutely ruining it is, longer stow time IF HCs don't get a range nerf and or slightly longer draw time but with a slight buff to damage on pve targets. Snipers should get less visible flinch depending on range and gun type used against them but also less bullet magnetism. To me that's logical but to a lot of the community that's not considered "fun" even though they are getting hit with the same toxic weapons and narrowing down 100s of weapons for the sake of a hand full.