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3/11/2022 9:04:33 AM
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Bungie... PVP... I'm serious it's so bad!!!
It is in such a bad place. I've played this game for such a long time now, and I'm getting to the point that PVP is a chore and I don't want to play it anymore. PVP in the past has been the thing I look forward to the most.
Please put some time into finally bringing some balance. You should never be at a disadvantage for wanting to play one class over another.
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3 通の返信Honestly coming from at best a mediocre pvp player, balance is pretty good very few outliers on either end of the spectrum. Where pvp does lose the original destiny feel and more like unreal tournament is there needs to be a movement nerf. The game can't handle its own movement. Hunters bouncing off walls like a Crack addicted toddler Top tree warlocks looking like Barry Sanders in jet packs Titan shoulder charge basically getting you from a to b and back to c on the smaller maps. The game play is superfast and the games engine has issues keeping up so in a lot of cases it will make people look like they are glitching and teleporting all over the map. I have pretty good modern hardware for my PC and a good gaming monitor and still have moments of frame ghosting and unreliable visuals. They need to reduce the over all speed in which pvp is played at or it can't be balanced. It's why all maps feel super small and everyone has to migrate to CQB weapons because they are deadliest with quick reaction times. I'm not a game expert but my 2 cents is pvp needs an overhaul not to nerf weapons or a class but specifically the speed at which the game play takes place. If you don't agree that's cool I respect your opinion, but here is my not important 2cents on the matter.
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illzにより編集済み: 3/14/2022 9:19:01 AMWe need all 9 remaining maps back that were removed 16 months ago and abolish lobby balancing. Pure cbmm and new maps. Nerf fusions to 14m maximum. Nerf invis, when shot show on radar n uncloak. Easy. It is so haunting to think they said they wanted fights to focus on primary gunplay and then released void 3.0 like this. It haunts me more that I always have brand new players on my team who, bless their souls- because theyre new, dont do so well. It expects me to carry them. Matchmaking is very unfair and sees good players and bad players as outliers and smashes them together. This is not how to treat players. Prioritise connections and let it be random, some you win, some you lose. How it is currently set up is very contrived and for what? There is no reward and people still hate it. We have had 1 single new map since shadowkeep in 2019 and had 11 removed. With 2 coming back last month. Its just not right and its so sad as a lover of both pvp and Pvp as 100% regressed in terms of motivational, aspirational loot in competitive and its matchmaking changes (unreal) as well as regression in terms of matchmaking quality, because of that-connections and the removal with no replacement- maps. How does such a great company like bungie purposefully make such missteps in terms of pvp? I support bungie at every single step and have done for 7 years with destiny and upto 16 including halo. The least they could do is talk about it more. Its like they arent allowed to openly talk about pvp anymore
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7 通の返信Hardrive2677により編集済み: 3/12/2022 11:32:57 PM
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In my opinion there have been metas that are way worse. We had the insta freeze / 50 meter shatterdive meta, hard light meta and so much more. To me it feels like everything I wanna play is playable. I can play sniper, fusion, pulse, auto rifle, sidearm, trace rifle, voidwalker, shadebinder, stormtrance so on and so forth. We had times that were way worse.
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ezXPitにより編集済み: 3/12/2022 11:15:45 PMSaid it many times over the last few years: Bungie doesnt care about pvp and is not able not balance/fix it in any proper way. Proof: - No new map since ages (new new, not D1 recycing new) - It takes them months to nerf/buff things - they just release new stuff (for PvE), without thinking how it could change pvp. Best example stasis and now Void 3.0 At some point I have lost all hope. We have so many abilities, weapon types and and and, Bungie lost the overwiev of all these things. They don't now what they want and they will not strictly seperate Pve from Pvp and thus we will never get a proper pvp.
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It's honestly not that bad. A lot of weapons are viable, as well as a majority of the subclasses being good. Are there things that need looked at? Yep. Void 3.0 being leaps better than the other subclasses, titan OS spam, etc etc. Is it perfect? Nope. But it's honestly not that bad.
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Stop playing pvp mate, crying about it will not change it, less population will do then maybe they will change some. Did not touch it since dlc dropped, just from watching clips looks like proper streamers slayfest only.
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9 通の返信Lord Felwinterにより編集済み: 3/12/2022 4:26:16 PMThere's only one solution now. Delete pvp and the world will be a better place 🥳 Pull that Thanos snap bungo
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1 返信You have to remember PVP has been something Bungie felt they had to provide but never wanted to, they don’t invest any time or effort into PVP, it’s always the same maps, they never balance the weapons or gameplay. Bungie are laughing all the way to the bank as the only way they will change it and invest in PVP is for people to stop playing it…. How likely is that
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Honestly this is every pvp post negatively for like the last 7 years. Sometimes try taking a break, re evaluate your builds, and be more aware of your opponents. I'm not great at pvp, but at no point do I let it ruin my game experience. You have good days and bad.
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1 返信What you don't like being farmed by players ranging from a 15.0 to 3.0 and leading your team with a .90?
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1 返信Lack of balance is one thing, its after all something that can not be fully achieved in a game like this, but the biggest issue that i have is the connection quality which was bad to begin with and got signigicantly worse with crossplay. Overwhelming majority of the lobbies i get are laggy, and a significant portion of those lobbies are bad enough that don’t even bother trying and just queue again, there is no point in staying when multiple opponents do not take damage when you shoot them. Crossplay connections between Xbox and Playstation has completely ruined pvp.
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2 通の返信Morakxにより編集済み: 3/12/2022 9:11:18 AMIn the same boat. Noone at Bungie cares about our pvp opinion tho. I've played through every single horrible meta in pvp since year 1. And there were a whole lot of terrible metas such as OEM, infinite spectral, laning scouts in y1, DMT, stasis at launch, top tree dawn, bottom tree striker, mountaintop recluse. Just to name a few that came to my mind. This meta on the other hand tho made me, someone who plays this games pve to "get it done" to finally play pvp, quit entirely. I love[b]d[/b] this games pvp. But i just completely lost interest in playing at all after touching this void 3.0 meta in pvp. Invis cringe kids everyhwere, thinking they "outplay" people with their garbage playstyle. And the worst is titans spamming overshield with their dumb barricade. There are zero equal gunfights anymore. And i can't justify playing that at all whatsoever. I was able to play around shitterdivers cause it literally was avoidable. This cheese isn't tho. Titans not moving to keep overshield and hunters just being invis the entire game. How can a triple a dev play this themselves and think "that's fun and fine, let's ship it".
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1 返信It's always 1 step forward, 10 steps back with Bungie. They need hire people with [u]experience[/u] in making PvP games, or outsource the PvP part of the game...won't get better until then.
