Played warlock for years in D1, then all 3. I only play Hunter in D2. If I’m not wanted I simply solo the activity. No offense to others but D1 “Gally or out” when I didn’t have one but had 50 completions in VOG and in Crota and was teaching others showed me the value of value. I know I don’t “need” any tool or character, I “need” strategy and implementation. As a primary solo player, it is a great feeling knowing I don’t have to tolerate anyone else and their causticity during gaming. Haven’t raided in years and haven’t missed anything. I don’t suffer from FOMO. And, I have no patience for other’s BS attitudes… It’s a video game. I play for fun and entertainment. If I’m not wanted I lose nothing… The only thing real in any video game is the time you spend playing. Something not well known…

Lol. Hunters get their BS to last the longest. They do fine. People just optimize the fun out of any game.

Hunters aren't "weak" in PvE, it's just that there are alternatives. Shadowshot is pretty great, but Divinity exists, and they don't stack. Bottom tree Gunsli-blam!-'s Golden Gun with Celestial Nighthawk is good, but Titans and Warlocks both get some good dps on their own. At this point the only two things I Hunters being used for are invisibility on Nightstalker (mostly for Nightfalls) and Revenant for when teammates have on Focusing Lens.

[b]In practically every raid or GM, players ask for 1 titan, 1 warlock. Generally, hunters are not required. And that is because of 2 issues:[/b] - In the past seasons, there have been very important debuff mods in the form of particle deconstruction and co. Even without them, there is Divinity. All of these do not stack with tether, removing the need for the damage increase from tether. Hunters do not have any other damage providing abilities. - Hunters have no super that provides survivability. Wellock and bubble/ursa titan have been the go-to if people need more survivability. Hunters do not provide any survivability other than invis, which is situational at best, and not something to rely on. [b]To be clear[/b], I do not think Hunters are particularly weaker or anything. I just think they are missing the flexibility the other classes have, as they only have CC (stasis) and damage, instead of CC, damage and support. [b]Solution: Damage:[/b] Make tether stack on top of other debuffs, or decrease the amount of debuffs that are around in general, or make tether cause crits no matter where you shoot. [b]Survivability:[/b] Give hunters the ability to spread team-wide invisibility more easily, or have them spread damage resistance to teammates in some form.

Last post I saw like this I agreed 100%, but now i tried frostees with duskfield with the crystal in the middle and the whisper that makes them recharge faster and I have infinite grenades

Yeah but hunters are heavily favored in pvp so it’s

As a hunter main I will need disagree with buffs for them.. but will disagree when it comes to there end gane viability.. I way rather run hunter in dungeons and raids and pvp.. gms certain ones hunters struggle but most of the time you just need to change your roll. Utilize invis get obj complete.. res the titans and warlocks when they inevitably go down leaving you as last guardian standing lol

They are reworking light subclasses

I see plenty of posts for gms need 2 locks 1 hunter If anything titans are left out

I soloed prophecy on my hunter, helped some guys do Hallowed Lair because I was on camo hunter, they kept dying, and I kept resing.

This is just from my experience but I find Warlock best suited for end game content followed by Hunters. Considering that 80ish% of my play time is on my Warlock this my be a little biased, but I'd much rather run a GM or similar with a stasis/void Hunter. Their solar tree needs some love in end game but I've been seeing the arc sub classes more and more. I feel like Titans only have 2 builds in Master content and above right now, Bubble/Ursa and Sunspots. If a titan isn't running one of those two I probably don't want them on my team. Edit; Shout to Cuirass of the Falling Star for DPS.

I agree! I'm a raid sherpa on all three platforms, been playing since D1, have cleared over 4000 raids, and have been a first-time raid sherpa for over 2000 Guardians. The last time I had to ask, "do we have a hunter on the team?" was for the Crota's End raid in D1. I have switched my main from Titan to Warlock back to Titan depending on the current end-game raid, and I *like* switching it up, and learning new skills. D2 has not given me a reason to rely on the hunter class for PvE. I've taken to giving myself "Hunter Homework" so I can keep in shape (ran all GMs as a Hunter at least once last season, Master Lost Sectors, etc.) and I have hunter mains give me suggestions on stream for load outs and supers just for fun in raids. I know there are plenty of super-star, end-game hunters who do amazing things, (I listen to two of them every day and I admire what they can do) but I am hopeful that the upcoming Void subclass re-work in WQ will breathe new life into Hunters. I know Bungie values equity and everyone sharing and playing nice in the sandbox, so here's hoping the next raid makes me say, "we need a Titan, a Warlock, and a Hunter..."

Hunters are fine in GM and Master content. There are some very strong builds out there. Its just a learn to play issue!

Hunters are great for GM’s and all end game except for ‘boss melts’. Hopefully void 3.0 can change this.

Idk, I do just fine in end game. They might not have as much to work with, the 1s we do have is more than enough. I mean I'm all for buffs lol, but we all know it'll result in nerfs eventually

That's because hunter supers don't give the team a weapon damage buff. The only area Hunters dominate is in pvp.