I would remove the ability to slide from it. Not because of any advantage but you look like a total -blam!- sliding all over the place

Hear me out add ranks to competitive add a competitive armor set and add different flairs based on what rank you hit make a bronze silver gold system and make the rewards for the top of the ladder worthwhile and I think that could singlehandedly save comp pvp as a big comp player myself who grinds to mythic and above every season there is no incentive for me to hit it matchmaking sucks rewards are lackluster just add a system and rewards and it will help

Some of these just sound like a vague request to improve things you don't like not really a fix but on the whole I agree

Where’s grandpa??

[i]Tl/dr - player numbers and Bungo's own efforts thus far show that a PvP overhaul is both unlikely and unlikely to be any good if it ever does happen.[/i] Ok.... I don't disagree, PvP does need an overhaul. I don't like PvP in Destiny, I don't like the way Bungo handle it and how they affect PvE for PvP issues. But I fully appreciate that some people love Destiny PvP and I think they absolutely deserve to have an enjoyable PvP experience that sees dev effort and improvements. They pay their money, they deserve a good product. With that out of the way I'm just going to throw out some info as to why PvP is somewhat neglected, but also why, based on their previous actions, one should have little to no expectations from Bungo here. https://warmind.io/activity "Real-Time Guardian Activity Snapshot: 3 hours " Crucible - 12.5% Private Crucible - 1.0% 100% - 12.5% - 1.0% = 86.5% not playing PvP. When IB or Cheats is up, the PvP figure does rise, but generally taps out around 30% at peak times (IB week start, Cheats weekend start), then drops to the 15-25% level. If I was a dev, looking at those numbers, where would I focus my effort, where would I see the potential greatest financial reward for my effort? And of course, PvP has had a massive overhaul. Remember launch PvP? 4 v 4, 1 super a match, make a cup of tea TTK. Bungo's grand PvP vision was a massive fail with abysmal player numbers. Then it was overhauled to 6 v 6, quicker ttk, more abilities etc (yet still a lot of maps designed for 4 v 4.) PvP is vastly different now. Yet it is, based on the majority of feedback that I read, still awful. (And I feel Bungo have a sense of 'job done'.) Can we even realistically expect that Bungo are able to overhaul PvP to a version that satisifies players? Fortunately we sort of have an answer to that as there is a PvP mode Bungo have spent some time on. Cheats has had two overhauls since launch. There are two main issues here. First...launch Cheats was initially removed for a long time so Bungo could get it right! Why launch with an enjoyable rewarding mode lol. Then when it returned, it was still so poor it needed a second rework. So two utter fails. Now, depending on where you look, this third iteration of Cheats is either the best thing ever, or still garbage. So maybe 2.5 fails...? That doesn't offer much hope imo. Second...that's a lot of time spent on a niche mode, not just in terms of PvP in general, but within PvP itself, niche within niche. Surely Bungo should have used that time for the benefit of ALL PvP players. But they didn't. Their priorities, whatever they were, made them focus on a smaller PvP player pool. Do Bungo even see that PvP needs work? What else... Oh, how long since PvP got a new map? An actual new map? What about a reskinned map? How many times can Bungo lie to people 'renewed PvP focus' etc.

I mean yea. Knowing Bungie tho, another "renewed pvp focus" trailer is already in the making, promising significant changes for pvp on or before season 210 in the year 2055 and as a result we get 2 reissued trials weapons from D1 and they take another 11 maps away from us but hey, ONE new map in exchange will get added within the next 3 years so be happy pvp players :) We all know that's bs.

Broken aim assist cheese weapons really need dealt with. Fixing all the things you mentioned would be great but getting controller aim assist cheesed with last word, snipers, slugs, crimson, lorentz n such is enough to make sure its still a miserable experience for the people on the receiving end.

This sounds too complex for the current group, they are not good at supporting PvP.

I don't agree with some of what you're listing but Bungie have shown to favour stupid ideas.......might as well go all in.

solo playlist is not needed in casual modes. i get it for comp but nor for the rest.

there's no playlist for solos unless trials freelance or iron banner come around. Also, the lack of maps is embarrassing. At least they didn't take any away..... oh wait.

It needs Dedicated Regional Servers, let players choose their regional data centre based on best ping (like Respawn did with Titanfall 2) then remove CBMM and incorporate SBMM so players can match within their skill bracket…

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