Even if it is OP, nerf is NOT the answer. Maybe buff other weapons. Nerfing everything is what caused so many players to leave at the beginning of this game. Destiny was great and fun because of weapons like gally, ice breaker, hawk moon, red death, etc. nerfing things kill the game.

[spoiler]Simply put, git guud.[/spoiler]

No way, it's fine. It's good but it's not OP. This is Destiny, there's a whole bundle of things that should be nerfed looong before this. I mean I just fired 5 shots into a guys face and he didn't take a scrap of damage. Granted it was in Iron Lagger but still 🤣

Put it into perspective. It has a faster ttk than the original not forgotten and more range. The only downside is that it takes special ammo and an exotic slot. I would not rule out a nerf, but I would wait to see the reaction of the community to it

It kinda is though, you wouldn't feel the need to defend it otherwise. 3 taps at 50m @ 200rpm.... with the handling and snappiness of a sidearm. Oh and full auto if you need for those actual sidearm moment sub 20m. Special ammo isn't hard enough to come by to say it's balanced out by that. I like it don't get me wrong, but it really doesn't belong in the game quite literally. It breaks too many molds and should have come out as an actual hand cannon using primary ammo imo. Keep the ranged scope in effect ( where is the scope though? ) and allow full auto and increased accuracy when hip firing. Lower the damage to match 180's but simultaneously buff 180's rpm to 200 across the board. Then I'll say it's good 'n fair.

People still complain about magnificent howl?

Very high skill ceiling, which [i]can[/i] be dangerous. It’s really teetering the edge of whether it’s too strong, hasn’t quite gone over it though.

It’s a sniper hand cannon that kills fast as hell and is shockingly forgiving. I give it a week before everyone hates it in crucible maybe 2. Cycle has happened too many times and been identical

I think it's a [i]'side arm' [/i]so it doesn't work with lucky pants.

People asking for a Nerf? It’s a CE Magnum Clone it’s fine as it is, don’t turn it to the H2 Magnum

Quickest way to nerf it would be to ask Bungie to change it into the HC archetype. The forums will turn on it instantly 😂

Not op, but not a fair weapon. Probably needs it's range brought in. And maybe more bloom to make the 3rd shot harder to nail. But, it's still a special weapon; so take it with a grain of salt.

It really isn't OP in fact to be honest I don't like the gun for the most part that zoom ruins it for me.

It’s really not op tbh I think a lot of people who are just really good with it are trying to make it seem op I mean think of it like deadmans as a sidearm and to be fair deadmans three taps to the head and its a primary, forerunner three taps to the head and its a special. The perks and exotic perk itself make sense for it to be how it is, so really calling for a nerf to the sidearm even though it can be outshot if you play smart would be super unnecessary. Plus it starts with enough ammo to get 2 kills like every other special weapon does. I’ve outshot many players using forerunner with the BR and the sidearm takes flinch man I just think you can only win the gun fight using forerunner if you’re the one who lands the first shot. I’m just speaking from crucible experience it’s definitely keeping shotgun users at bay and making them think twice about pushing super aggressively and it does allow you to challenge snipers since 3 peak isn’t a thing anymore in certain game modes. So it’s definitely fair and fun and I will say it’s better using as a long range to medium, close up you can make it work but just need to keep and eye on how much ammo you have I’ve had cases where someone will push me and I run out of ammo shooting them while back peddling or jumping back and miss a couple shots then boom out of ammo. Really forerunners good for pve too btw but overall I will say it’s really balanced. I’m just speaking from my own experience with it and I’ll get killed by it but that’s if I’m already low or I’m just not quick enough to shoot the ultimate swag of a casual hunter or drippy warlock or rocking titan. Seriously man it’s fun and it really drives me away from using hand canons and shotguns during the current meta and to be honest when I go into pvp I rock a halo loadout, it may not win against most weapons but it sure is fun.

It’s the selling feature for the Anniversary edition is my best guess as to why it’s so good. I played with it today and it’s definitely a great weapon in PVP. Many times I was able to win 1 vs 2 because of how quick it can kill and how far away it can do it. If you get the jump on your opponent unless they bail for cover you’ll more often than not win the gunfight with half health at least. It will get nerfed come February so the Witch Queen can have its own “op meta” gun for players to chase.

It spawns with enough ammo to kill 2 people, same as other special weapons. If there’s a problem with forerunner, there’s a problem with other specials.