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Strider_Roshinにより編集済み: 12/6/2021 1:34:52 PMPretty much never. But I rarely get killed by sliding Titans, but it does happen once in a blue moon. Now Titans will never be able to thanks to the grenade nerf. Hence why I said the other classes (mainly behemoth; the weakest stasis class) was nerfed because of Shatterdive was too strong. Changing it so you could only shatter dive frozen players in PvP would have been a better change. Maintains the grenade strength for the other classes while addressing the issue of Shatterdive.
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Agreed. I would say mainly the super, but I'd buff the melee too. It's like a worse Icarus dash, but with a long cool down. It doesn't do any more damage than a non-charged melee, and the knock back doesn't do anything anymore.
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Super needs some resilience back and, if you ask me, they should add back where it freezes nearby people upon popping (I don’t see the difference between this and Fists of Havoc killing everyone when you pop it)
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[quote]More like they're nerfing the grenade. As predicted Titans and Warlocks will be nerfed because of hunters.[/quote] Can we please not pretend that the effectiveness of glacier grenade shatter damage impacts any playstyle other than shatterdive hunter...? Shatterslide is not anywhere near as effective as an offensive ability and warlocks dont even have a shatter ability in the first place. This only affects hunters.
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[quote] Can we please not pretend that the effectiveness of glacier grenade shatter damage impacts any playstyle other than shatterdive hunter...? Shatterslide is not anywhere near as effective as an offensive ability and warlocks dont even have a shatter ability in the first place. This only affects hunters.[/quote] Agree here for the most part. Just one thing though. The slide might not be as good as shatterdive, but it isn’t that far off. Especially with the synergy with the behemoth class in general. Slide though some crystals when you’re weak and you can get a wormhusk like effect on top of getting melee energy. If you’re at full health, you get an overshield for a bit. Ton of fun and definitely on the overpowered side of thing. Can even slap on antaeus for even more tanking after you pop though the ice.
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I definitely do think shatterslide has its use, however Im talking specifically about its use as an offensive ability and how it would therefore be impacted by the upcoming nerf to glacier grenade shatter damage and freeze. I can personally say that I do not remember the last time I died because I got frozen by a glacier grenade or was near a glacier grenade and died to shatterslide. It probably hasnt happened since that last big stasis nerf. That playstyle is just not effective anymore so a nerf to it is really not affecting anything in the PvP environment but hunters, because they are the only class with a lethal shatter ability that is currently very strong and sees widespread use.
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[quote]I definitely do think shatterslide has its use, however Im talking specifically about its use as an offensive ability and how it would therefore be impacted by the upcoming nerf to glacier grenade shatter damage and freeze. I can personally say that I do not remember the last time I died because I got frozen by a glacier grenade or was near a glacier grenade and died to shatterslide. It probably hasnt happened since that last big stasis nerf. That playstyle is just not effective anymore so a nerf to it is really not affecting anything in the PvP environment but hunters, because they are the only class with a lethal shatter ability that is currently very strong and sees widespread use.[/quote] People have spread the narrative that behemoth is somehow bad, so you don’t see it used very often. Imo it’s one of the best subclasses in the game and the best on Titan by a good bit. Still very easy to shatterslide people. Not as easy as shatterdive, but with the removal of the need for a wind up, it’s just as fast to shatter as it was prenerf. Throw nade, slide and free kill. Saying the playstyle isn’t effective is far from true. Good defense, great mobility and high lethality all make it one of the best classes and builds to run. The nerf definitely doesn’t impact the class as much as hunters. A lot of people only use revenant for the shatterdive, but the slide is just one part of behemoth’s amazing kit.
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hate n payneにより編集済み: 12/6/2021 7:17:45 PMYour logic is flawed by the upmost stupidity. There is a difference between complaining just to complain and proving an obvious flaw in the system. Then again, I don’t expect you to understand the difference since you don’t comprehend what complaining truthfully means. You are right “True” primary engaging players would be okay but most of the players who you believe are good players aren’t necessary good are they. There is a difference in believing you are good based off your own views versus the ones that are being showcased without the need to speak on it. I have never said I was good by any means but I definitely understand diversity more than most of the community and that’s all I care about. It is about having fun at the end of the day to me and not caring whether or not I am better than the next player because it shows through gameplay no matter what. The whole goal is to challenge yourself individually because if you can’t do that, what use are you to an actual team.
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hate n payneにより編集済み: 12/6/2021 7:20:40 PMThe funny part is you assume this is my post and that is more than enough to showcase how conceited you are in thinking. You switch from crying to complaining, which one is it??? It is okay Big Baby, you will still be able to use other abilities after your “Precious” gets tuned. We both know you are going to switch to Suros Regime and Flux grenade even though they are lethal already currently.
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I never assumed it was your post 😂 I just see all the scrubs (like you) here agreeing and crying about a nerf that’s now less than 24hrs away. Crying and complaining… they go hand in hand. Please don’t be dumb
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hate n payneにより編集済み: 12/6/2021 7:25:45 PM😂😂😂😂 Scrubs, ooooo so insulting. Are we suppose to be saddening by your thoughts on what we speak about in the forums? Imagine being in the forums so salty that you can’t rap your head around the reality that the game needed actual tuning. Again, you will be okay in a day or 2. Your next crutch will find you or you will find it because Bungie has to keep players such as yourself “easily satisfied”. Name calling will get you nowhere with me, I prefer actual conversations like real men do but then again I shouldn’t expect much from players calling other players “scrubs” for having feedback in a forum designed around “feedback”. 😂😂😂😂
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It’s the truth 🤷♂️ The game is fine if you aren’t a trash can at it. It’s why it’s the same group of people complaining in the forums after every patch. With the same atrocious stats. Nothing changes and it’s fun pointing that out 😂 Every meta you guys still suck. And the fact that you guys can’t see that it’s your lack of skill means there will never be an “actual conversation”. All this crying also gets things that don’t need nerfs nerfed. Things like Shoulder Charge and HHSN. Cause Bungie tries to cater to thumbless players. I give ya a week to either complain about something new or say something ain’t get nerfed hard enough. Best part about this is that abilities are what keep you bottom tier players from getting absolutely steamrolled more times than not 😂
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hate n payneにより編集済み: 12/6/2021 7:37:55 PMThe fact you bring up stats showcase you have no clue what you are talking about. I guarantee if Bungie made PVP randomize loadouts when you loaded into any PVP activity you would be simply at beginners stage all over again. Don’t sit here and act like you are the best player in this shooter because no one is. It all comes down to practice, which META is the strongest and game sense. 😂😂😂😂😂 You are mad salty about the changes I can see. The fact you assume these changes are stemmed from players complaining demonstrates how naive and clueless you truly are. Most of these changes are due to the change to the 3.0 system because Bungie didn’t want another Stasis experience all over again with Light Subclasses. Yet again you wouldn’t understand because all you know is “Crayon Eater Syndrome” (No offense to Titans) which is: Me skill because of kd Me skill because of METAH Me skill because of Trials Flawless Me skill because of team shooting and stack teams. Most of these concepts required “0” effort. Please keep that same energy when Bungie decides to truly address the balancing issues in the game.
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Stats matter in every game. Actually everywhere. Only trash people say they don’t 🤷♂️ I’m definitely not the best, but at least I’m not so garbage I stay complaining and crying about what kills me on the forums 😂
