Let me start by saying ,Atm smgs are cracked, they are super easy and forgiving to use. They outgun hcs and damn near anything. The trials smg has insane range. Ace of spades, crimson and An adept palindrome with range perks will outgun hawkmoon in pvp all day. Smgs and damn near anything can challenge hawkmoon(an exotic hc) and win. I love this weapon for pve but in pvp its not as consistent and competitive. In a 1v1 duel it can be ok but thats it. Crimson and ace can duel 2 to 3 at the same time. You can get those triple and double kills. Idk man i think hawkmoon needs more range/ better handling. It takes too long for the reticle to recenter itself between shots. It kicks like crazy man. In pve its fine but pvp its not. While you are fighting to reacquire your target after a shot the are shooting the crap outa you with their smg. By the time your reticle comes back down for a second shot you are dead. Im not asking for it to be broken but -blam!- give the weapon an adjustment. Im was getting murdered all day today in crucible trying to test different weapons since hcs and bows aint what they use to be. Idk it seems like the other weapons have better ttk now. Im trying to find something reliable that i can use. Pulse rifles and smgs are the meta atm along with fusion rifles and Ldriver. Lorentz driver is another ridiculously broken weapon. How are we suppose to challenge this Damn thing. Kinetic and special grenade launchers are super annoying now as well. I'm not looking forward to the fighting lion's buff. Why would you put these things in the kinetic and special slots. They can be abused, they are not balanced wtf bungie.