It's not just streamers this hurts its average players too. MM based on just wins hurts average players. From My experience the last two nights it was very frustrating. We had to reset a few cards due to losing mercy early on. We then went on to lose our flawless game after already losing our mercy. In total on Friday we won around 20 games and lost a lot too. We had one good run and fell at the last hurdle. We tried again last night but could not get past two wins. Are games are getting much harder and flawless now feels unobtainable this week. Its feels like we are getting punished for playing alot but we are not top tier, we just enjoy the challenge when it's fair. Losses and flawless should be included in the MM, it can't be solely on wins.

Streamers/YouTubers always said trials is endgame PVP and it should be difficult to reach the lighthouse. But it hurts their business and that’s why it’s a problem. I got my pinnacle and hopped out.

So has easy mode been shifted to you and people like you this week or no? I'm trying to find out where they opened up the medieval rolling cage thing full of solo players.

Yes, screw the whole community to own the streamers! Brilliant! Someone get this guy his sign.

i tell you a secret, this new trials mm hurt near all players

[quote]Finally content creators and top tier sweats are getting what they deserve, constant sweat games. Nothing more frustrating than an average pvp player like myself falling at the gates (losing game 7) to some sweat streamer. I’m collecting alllll those tears! Keep whining streamers :)[/quote] Hate to break it to you, but you’re not losing to just sweat streamers.

The bad news about streamers complaining whether it be PvP or PvE. They have a lot more pull than the rest of the player base ever will and the last thing Bungie wants is to see their free advertisement leave. So how do they please their free advertisement without pissing everyone else off?

This game is either breeding borderline narcissists or this game attracts borderline narcissists.

Yeah I was listening to Kujay crying earlier. This guy is so out of touch. He thinks high tier players deserve more rewards for having to play better players. Lol that is my life every time I step into trials. He is just mad that he can’t steam roll lower level players. A lot of these guys thought they were great until they had to actually play top tier players. I saw a lot of streamers get beat down by unknown players and they don’t like that. Guess what? Get gud and adapt..lol

Look Bungie has been called out so many times for the utter carp fest that is D2`s PVP its not to say the gunplay is not fantastic because its the some of the best out there.. it is the MM and p2p systems that's never worked. with each step forward they take 25 backwards. you simply cant have players use low service ISP players hiding behind VPN changing there region at drop of a hat and expect the system to work and its only getting worse.. And Finally content creators and top tier sweats are getting what they deserve a player pool that will die a quick death due to player decline.. constant sweat fest of matches.. means causals have all but stopped playing the mode. why because Bungie cant afford to split the pool in trials Most frustrating is that an average pvp player is falling at the gates (losing game 7) due to being missed matched with a sweat streamer...once or twice but every time even those players will vacate the mode. Loot, matchmaking, gear and weapon's changes are only a band ad on the iuses.. The cold hard truth is, Trials has out lived its time

Nobody: Absolutely -blam!- no one: Forum user: Streamers have the same complaints as me today. Better use this opportunity to dunk on them rather than come together and say we don't like this.