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9/26/2021 4:11:55 AM
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Stop matching scrub solo players up against teams
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14 通の返信As a top level/high ranking/streamer tier gamer I fervently disagree.[spoiler]BTW I’m a Wayfarer and D1 pre alpha vet so I kinda know what I’m talking about.[/spoiler]
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5 通の返信This is the problem with this community. Solo scrubs thinking pvp should cater to them instead of just finding a team or improving…
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10 通の返信Trials need SBMM badly or RBMM. I don’t care if I match 3 stacks when I solo, but if they are on another planet skill wise, why even play
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A scrub is a scrub. Meaning a scrub would even lose to an average player. This is endgame multiplayer pvp for good players. I don’t complain about GMs being hard because the challenge is for endgame multiplayer pve. Holy crap. You guys should play another game. There are thousands out that cater to your needs. You might think of playing Minecraft. It would suit your solo player and then easy mode no brain game play.
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1 返信The only reason, after 3 weeks of observation, I can come up for matchmaking is: Bungie is making a ladt ditch attempt to keep this mode alive by throwing in scrubs for the sweat lords. Then incentive for scrubs is the sweet loot (as always) and this keeps the numbers up. Don't worry, it's a spike which will eventually settle down like before. There is no incentive to get stomped week after week for a game which is full of toxic lfg or such a small player base (sub 1m) that every matchmaking logic will be flawed. There won't be any balance becuase there isn't a pool to balance sh*t over here.
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Every time I play a 3 man I’ve got 1300 power level teammates. There’s literally nothing they can do. Matchmaking in every playlist is -blam!-. Bungie just can’t get it right cause they have no talent over there.
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7 通の返信3 stacks are avoiding other 3 stacks by monitoring the player counter. That’s getting fixed soon per Bungie.
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6 通の返信Or matching 2 players against 3. Has happened a few times now. Load in, there is only 1 other person on my team. Not even a spot for the third. Wtf.
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3 通の返信I matched a guy on a 42 win streak yesterday, he was doing carries, I looked him up and watched his stream for a bit. No foul play, just superior to everyone else. My longest win streak in history of trials is 3. His kd was phenomenal mine is gross. Why do I even play against this calibre of player?!
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21 通の返信Bungie already said that solos and duos make up the vast majority of the playerbase. They are the reason it works. Splitting them away from everyone else would probably hurt both groups in terms of queue time and match quality. Yeah, you wouldn't match teams. Great. But your odds of being dragged down by a blueberry who doesn't shoot anyone stay the same, if not increase. Is that really an improvement? They're gonna test it in labs, but we'll see. I think there are much better solutions available. Just off the top of my head here, what if they applied SBMM to [i]only[/i] solos and duos. (Players in a full squad could match anyone, either a team or solos/duo close to their skill level.) Yes, they'll still be able to match teams, but they'll be guarenteed team members and enemies close to their skill level. This would make solos an actual threat to teams, make matches more competitive for solos and duos, and increase solo/duo win rate from 30% to 40-50%. An obvious drawback is carries done by duos plummet, which is against Bungie's "friendgame" philosophy. Just an idea though.
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The thing I've noticed with MM is that it doesnt calculate properly lol. For ex. On the other team I get maybe 2 stack and a solo, and on my team all solos, but the 2 on my team are just chickens with no heads as if they playing mayhem or something lol. Then next match gives me 2 strong players while the other team have crappy players except 1. Are they implying that, that 1 person is gonna carry everyone lol? Even after going flawless, I tried solo q, and the 2 that always join me are is either not that great or just giving the kills to the team. We def need freelance Q, and maybe just maybe balance how many good players are in each team. There should never be 3 good players vs 1 good and 2 bad. That's just as bad as going against stacks.
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Yea crucible in general has me scratching my head like crazy lately. I usually solo queue and my first match yesterday I went against a 6 stack and got absolutely obliterated….I’m a mediocre pvp player at best and I’m constantly getting matched against teams that are gods. It sucks.
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3 通の返信I mean, I'm literally avoiding Trials this week. I'll wait for the solo queue labs, at least it'll be more entertaining than getting matched against 3 stacks. Honestly think Bungie need either SBMM or RBMM (like Starcraft 2...etc etc etc) to make the games at least enjoyable and challenging. Winning 5-0 or losing 5-0 doesn't benefit me as a player trying to improve in PvP. Not even remotely. Solo teams vs 3 stacks isn't fun Bungie, so why even do it?
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2 通の返信Having played the last three weeks, I'd 100% say the matchmaking this week has by far been the worst. Not exaggerating when I say about 80% of matches seems to be a stack. At this rate it's not worth it.
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35 通の返信Totally agree and also stop this happening. I was playing solo on a flawed passage trying to get to 7 wins and matched a 3 stack on their lighthouse game. This should not happen.
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5 通の返信Needs freelance or it’s not sustainable. People will only take so much. Likely 90+% chance you are matching a stack. 90% chance one of your players is bottom tier. At this point, it’s not even close to having a chance at a fair fight.
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8 通の返信Why the hell is this stupid mode matching us against the same team twice in a row after they beat us? How does that even work? We're on 5 wins and the other team is also, and they beat us, then we match up again INSTANTLY and it's the same damn team? It didn't even try to find people on the same wins for EITHER of us. This system is broken.
