Trials is not garbage, it's just not where it needs to be if the goal is having a diverse player pool participating on a consistent basis. Bungie needs to decided what they want trials to be. It looks like they want a competitive game mode that everyone can participate in and are throwing a lot against the wall seeing what might stick and what's not in an attempt to make it work. What they are failing to address so far, which is the real issue is very simple matchmaking. Instead they are doing everything they can to avoid addressing it. If they had a simple matchmaking system in place to have the majority of teams facing other teams and solo facing solo regardless of flawless status and only mix the two when necessary you would have a lot fewer 0-5 games. If this system was in place you would of course have some outlier matches based on players available and top 1% solo players in some matches but overall is really what's needed if they want to avoid a full time freelance mode. With the current volume of players that have been in the player pool this past couple weeks this system could easily work. As a solo player I face teams around 50-60% in trials. When I look back at these matches the teams usually have a 80-100% chance of winning based just on rank. Trials is a lot about skill but also a lot about communication and coordination, especially during a week like this with objectives. A team that is not communicating is at a huge disadvantage, then you combine that with teams on average having higher skilled players vs the average random solo's and you have a recipe for a lot of blowouts. If Bungie really wants solo players to be engaged in trials they need to have them facing stacks around 20-30% of their matches. This would drastically reduce the number of 0-5 matches. I think solo players need to feel like they have at least a chance of winning in the matches they play if Bungie wants to keep them engaged long term after the shiny new loot sugar rush is over.

I like it! zone capture for sure is DOPE!

Having flawless in the none-flawless pool makes it a slog for sure

every other match I'm losing 0-5 by a team that is granted passage to the lighthouse... absolute trash mode. first week was fantastic, now it's -blam!-

All anyone does is whine and -blam!-, just don’t play the damn game mode if you suck that bad. I played all day with my friends who are just as good as some of you guys crying in these forums and still can go 7-0 consistently.

Destiny 2 is primarily PvE and that’s been made pretty clear by Bungie due to the constantly broken gear that’s released every year. PvP in Destiny 2 is unbalanced and more often than not, people have to use special ammo to get kills because they don’t seem to know what a primary is. The issue with PvP isn’t entirely on Bungie, the community has become more and more toxic over the years because you have depressed Destiny fanatics who jump your sh*t if you dare talk bad about their broken load out. The community in my opinion is actually more at fault than Bungie specifically because of how toxic it has become. People want gear to stay broken and if you try and post on the Forums about it then half of them will just trash talk because that’s all they’re good for. (No, this doesn’t apply to 100% of the community). Destiny 2 was never meant to be PvP focused which is why it has such a lengthy storyline and extensive lore. I used to play PvP regularly but ever since Felwinter’s Lie was released, it just hasn’t been the same. You either get people who play on 20 sensitivity and only use shotguns or people who play on 3 sensitivity and use Lorentz, that’s just how it is now.

I'm fairly new to D2, and never played enough crucible in D1 to even learn the maps. Reading these replies is the reason I haven't even attempted pvp or anything of the sort yet. Not looking forward to just getting bug squashed but skilled teams over and over before I can even figure out what I'm doing, let alone the map layout itself, especially with so much to do to keep me busy playing solo already. What incentive as a beginner with random party matching, do I have to attempt this absurdity? From what I can tell... there's a problem here.

Lol.. back to getting pummeled by flawless crews. Guess the loud few has a better voice than the majority. Bungie has to let their streamers look good with 50 kills

Hopefully Bungie takes these posts with a grain of salt. They probably just say. Ok that didn’t work. What is the feedback. I wish they would focus on the match making thing they are working on first and then try new modes. I feel like focusing on both just frustrates everyone. If they’re going to focus on labs now; they should of made it, it’s own thing with less gear and maybe a unique shader or emblem. Testing match making and new mode just seems to be too much for the community

And what, the state of crucible led you to believe there was any chance for Trials? 😆 come on dude be realistic. Destiny pvp is a joke, wrapped up in an ability -blam!- show, topped off with some appalling asss p2p net code. It's literally a parody of fps gaming