so you want free hand outs, it seems. Makes unlikely to be worth getting then since all that's involved is existing.

No, I either want a quest (loved the Divinity quest) or the weekly limitations removed. Neither is a hand out as both still require you to be able to run the raid in the first place. Nice try 😜

It is a free hand out - doesn't give any incentive for players to keep running the raid. All of you are complaining about not having it drop and wanting a stupid easy mode quest to get it. It also slaps the rest of us in the face who actually earned the raid exotics by running it multiple times - be it having excellent RNG, or crappy one. Divinity was a huge mistake, which is why they went back to the random drop that way you had to earn it, instead of a quest, and simple puzzle. Absolutely no challenge in it, whatsoever. If you want a game that gives you free stuff simply by playing normally, go jump on COD. I didn't play D1, but I heard it was way more grindy, and I didn't hear people whining as much back then, especially considering how user friendly D2 has been for casuals.

I've been playing since D1 beta. The whining was honestly worse back then. In any case I had Rivensbane by the time I had 30 clears. I'm on 136 clears of Last Wish now. Tell me again how nobody runs the raids after getting the Exotic.

Maybe for hardcore players, since you said you've been around since D1, and endured the grind. But casuals do not deserve free sh*t just for playing. I got lucky and it only took me 7 clears to get Tarrabah, 1kv, Mytho - but it still took almost 30 to get Anarchy, and I have yet to get Eyes, I don't sit back and cry about it. I just keep running the raid. A simple quest should not be the way to get an exotic - making something easy to get takes away it's value

Now look at it this way... if its going to take you 78 clears to get Eyes... what changes by letting you roll the dice on it more than 3 times a week? How does that become a handout? Also, calling the Divinity quest a "simple puzzle".... man theres some raiders and sherpas out there who'd have a lot to say about that statement 😂

If running it infinite number of times to get an exotic, that's different, and it wouldn't take away from the effort put forth because you're still running the content. Bungie did this for vaulted content. But if you make it where it's essentially given away, like the Toast emote, it loses value. That's why I have very little respect for people who got it during easy mode at the end of the season. As for Divinity, in my experience, it was only difficult for people dumb enough to ask to be ran through it without having experienced the raid. As a former sherpa, I refused to take anyone through Divinity unless they 1) had at minimum 5 clears, and/or 2) knew how to run every aspect of every encounter. If they so much as said "I watched a YouTube video" or "I watched Kackis' guide" I kicked them without mercy. But if everyone knows what they're doing, and all you have to explain is the puzzle, it's actually quite simple if you think about it. The only tricky part I've had was the second one after Consecrated mind where people would normally take the long way around, whereas, I'd prefer to jump through the washing machine.