Wow they removed kill clip from a 450 AR but kept it on a 120 HC?! Lol man is Bungie out of touch with reality.

We've heard your feedback and agree, the Vault of Glass needs an adjustment to the drop rate of Vex Mythoclast.. Thats why we're removing perks from some of your favorite weapons!. -Bungie , probably

So the weapons get unsunset but come with terrible perks instead of the ones that actually made them desirable? Typical bungie nerfing weapons without touching the actual weapons

[quote] You RUINED the Dreaming City and Moon Weapons! No more outlaw, kill clip or triple tap on tigerspite No more subsistence or triple tap on arc logic No more subsistence on every waking moment A bunch of useless perks have replaced the ones we all know and love.[/quote] That's what sunset was all about. A deliberate, premeditated and fallacious way to remove all those weapons with great perks from our hands, to delete our hard earned God rolled weapons. As soon as that was achieved, Bungie came back with the apologetic speech that their sunset [i][b]"execution was off the mark"[/b][/i] and that [b][i]"starting in Season 14[/i] [/b][b][i]we won't be capping the infusion on any weapons or armor..."[/i][/b] [u]BUT only the ones[/u] [b][i]"...that have not already reached the cap as of the start of Season 13"[/i][/b]. As you can see, Bungie position was crystal clear: "goal achieved, lame excuse given to players, praise received for solving a fake problem we created, moving on". That's why they'll never reissue the sunset weapons with the perks they had because removing those perks from the players hands was their sole objective, in the first place.

Tranquility is the worst offender. There literally is not a single good PvP perk and the only halfway decent PvE perk is Frenzy. Why the hell would I want Feeding Frenzy, a perk that has FIVE STACKS, on a gun that requires perfect accuracy and only has a magazine of [b]FOUR??[/b]

Because Bungie only "gives" stuff back sarcastically. "Oh, you want stuff unsunsetted? OK! Choke on it!" Lol...

Just because you haven't learned to adapt to the new perks doesn't mean they're not as good or better than the old ones. Heating up + rampage, tunnel vision + kill clip... it's actually crazy that you think they'd reissue the weapons exactly as they were, to be honest. Clearly you don't like the game in general if this minor thing is the breaking point for you, so just quit now.

New World and Halo Infinite can't come soon enough! This will be our last dance Bungie. You won't bait me with your next IP.

Really? You all thought these perk would had stayed with he recent change? And the fact they openly say they don't want everything to be reload +dmg perk anymore.... You complains in the forums but don't read the news....

Just imagine when they bring back the black armory weapons….

I'll add that Love and Death can no longer drop with Full Court..

Shame they got rid of some good perks. Tranquility might be ok in pvp along with Loud Lullaby. Best combos (in my opinion, pvp or PvE) - Tranquility: Tunnel Vision - Elemental Capacitor - Loud Lullaby: Tunnel Vision - Kill Clip - One Small Step: Surplus - Trench Barrel - Arc Logic: Heating Up/Surplus - Frenzy/Wellspring - Dream Breaker: Heating Up/Under Pressure - Wellspring/Frenzy/Cornered - Also: Slideways/Under Pressure - Kickstart - Every Waking Moment: Most rolls serviceable - Love and Death: Clown Cartridge - One for All/Chain RXN - Fine Memorial: Basically Anything - Frenzy - Tigerspite: Overflow/Subsistence - Frenzy/Swashbuckler - Twilight Oath: No Distractions/Killing Wind - Snapshot/Elemental Capacitor - Also: Surplus - Vorpal Weapon may be ok. - Abide the Return: Probably pass… Decent perks all around with some cool combos. Wish Tranquility wasn’t neutered tho…

Good to know. Won't waste more time in the game. Game is getting to feel like it is mostly a waste of our time lately.

Can’t wait to get my hands on a PS5. Ratchet and Clank, Hogwarts Legacy, LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga(eventually), Horizon: Forbidden West, Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora, whatever new Star Wars game is coming out(hopefully an open world RPG where you can play as literally any of the sentient races, and hopefully Amazon can try and get the rights to the LOTR game so we can get that open world mmo we were promised. Also, give me an open world Deadpool game, voiced by Ryan Reynolds, where as you take damage you slowly lose your limbs until you’re literally just a head rolling around and you’re forced to respawn, and there’s a short cutscene of your random body parts sticking out of a bag while riding on the subway next to Colossus. And absolutely have him break the fourth wall while you’re playing the game. I’m talking, turning towards the camera if you stand still for too long and he starts berating you for ignoring him and having him actually read the in game manual for the controls as the tutorial. Give him his infinite weapon bag, so that you can swap out weapons at any time. Add a ton of different ways to fight. Run out of ammo? Pistol whip em. Out of ammo but the enemy is too dangerous to get close enough to pistol whip? Throw your katanas at em. Open world travel is obviously via moped. Give him a ton of awesome levels based off of his best comic storylines, add upgrades, like the ability to become Venompool, via special quest. Add skins unlock able via in game achievements, like his classic comic book appearance, his X-Force suit, his movie suit, a suit where he’s wearing a Hugh Jackman mask, a rainbow unicorn suit, just silly stuff. Have classic Deadpool characters play major roles, like Taskmaster, Domino, Copycat, Wolverine, Cable, Colossus, Lady Death and Spider-Man. They could even have it set in Insomniacs Spider-Man universe. I got a little too into this....

Agreed. I had an Arc Logic with sustenance and triple tap. Then it got sunset PERMANENTLY!!! Sunsetting ruined this game.