I feel that most true PvE players welcome the challenge. The ones complaining are the PvP players who can’t count or distinguish between left/middle/right. The raid is fun and the changes are fun and make it a little more difficult. All these PvP players knock on PvEers who -blam!- about doing PvP for weapons and such. Oh how the tables have turned. Maybe you PvP players should stick to PvP and leave the end game PvE to the PvEers. I’m sure I’ll get a “I’d destroy you in the crucible remark”. Which I reply with, I’ll see you and the final boss chest, oh wait no I won’t.