What if you 1vs1 someone 10 times and you both have felwinters on and said person beats you ten times. Why would their no skill felwinters beat your no skill felwinters?
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Let me break it down for you in a very simple manner. Op says felwinters "takes no skill whatsoever". This means that if 2 players were to battle it out with felwinters only, given that they play enough games, they would be completely equal. In the absence of skill, player a and player b will kill each other equally with felwinters because felwinters is doing all the work. Correct? And we all know this is not the case. Many players can consistently beat op in a battle with felwinters only. So what variable is at play here? Can you guess?
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It really is that simple though. Felwinters is easily counter able. At high level play most kills (especially trials) are Handcannon kills or sniper picks. Only bad players who can’t adapt to the 24/7 radar really cry about the shotguns “lack of skill”
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I never said that... The gun is problematic....perfect roll with the best perks choice...even with the change it will still be a top pick But hey keep crying...it's entertaining to see the forums goes made again for no reasons
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The gun isn’t any better than astral 😂 It’s just the only current energy shotgun with Max impact/range/ and QuickDraw. The 3 things it takes for it to be a god roll... Mindbenders if it were around would still see more use 🤷♂️ Ya just love blaming shotguns without looking at what the problem is 🤦♂️
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You are proving my point... Felwinter IS the only shotgun that is still around that has the god roll. Add that it’s easier to acquire and you can see why everyone is using it. If we could pick rolls 99% of shotgun users would instead get a god roll Retold Tale... Felwinters isn’t why you guys are getting aped. Lack of radar awareness and primary shot is...
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Felwinters, as do most shotties, have a low skill floor but that does not mean they take "no skill whatsoever". In fact, shotties have a high skill ceiling that is dependent on movement more so than other weapons given how close you have to be to use them. Look at a video of a top player like wallah using a shottie and then compare it to an average player and tell me that there's no skill involved.
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....movement isn't only for shotgun use.... Shotguns are low skills(except slugs) And everything can be used a better way with higher skill ceilling.... I'm done with this discussion of you going to badly just defend shot gun
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[quote]....movement isn't only for shotgun use.... Shotguns are low skills(except slugs) And everything can be used a better way with higher skill ceilling.... I'm done with this discussion of you going to badly just defend shot gun[/quote] Never said that movement is only a shotgun skill. And I have no interest in defending shotguns at all given that they are probably my least used weapon; just debating logically. It's a very simple concept. Based on the fact that good players can dominate less skilled players consistently while both groups are using shotguns, means that shotguns take a level of skill.