..If win trading, ghost lobbies, is bad for the game, yet hurt no one, but benefit who ever is involved, then 12 man lobbies, which hurt no one, but benefit everyone involved should go. Its funny how people praise one exploit but then turn around and hate another. When both are equally exploiting the game and have the same affect on the game. I hope bungie fixes 12 man lobbies b4 the grandmaster NF comes out because everyone will breeze through it with 12 people and earn the adept rewards so easy. Just like how trials and comp recoveries, win trading, or ghost lobbies allow people to get easy rewards too. I cant even get into a dungeon regularly, let alone a 12 man raid or NF. Yet, we love this exploit, for the ones that can participate. But those that cant get a trial recovery, ghost lobby, or win trading exploit, we are in an uproar? While everyone is complaining about exploits and cheating, what about the people that cant do either raid or trials? Any exploit eases the pain and frusteration bungie and this game has caused us all. I hope 12 man raid lobbies are gone by tuesday, because it wont be fair for those to get adept weapons in grandmaster NF with 12 people, while other have to stuggle with 3 people. Being carried by 9 more people in a pve mode for 3, is the same difference. Same goes for pvp. If trials rewards should be stripped from those who win trade, then so should rewards from people that got extra help and carries from and extra 6 to 9 players. Thats my 2 cents, take it or leave it.