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It just makes loadout variety so dull and has no player agency.
We have 3 slots for elements in our loadouts so match game makes you use all of them.
Champions make you use certain weapons and doesn't have support to all 3 pieces of loadout elements.
I know I could run Arc to cover all 3, but Arc is not my preferred PvE element at all.
I'm already running a sniper in PvE due to the artifact and me wanting to keep a special weapon but I don't like snipers.
So running arc would be a double dip in me using things I don't want and going even deeper in my preferences.
And if I were to run Striker I wouldn't be able to use my current 2 favourite Heavy Weapons, I would have to use Falling Guillotine, thing is I don't like it either even if it's one of the best Heavies.
So essentially this season to use one thing I do like I would sacrifice all other slots to gimp my enjoyement.
So I can't play Commander this season, sure I'll play Siegebreaker it's even stronger.
The new Primary Exotic is Solar so I can't run that then even if it counters Champions.
Like the problem is not that I can't play Striker, it used to be my main element when I started to play Destiny, but these systems are so restrictive that forcing me to use 3 out of 4 slots of things I don't want to is not fun.
So essentially the game is being designed not to offer what looter shooters are about, finding your style, playing your way so essentially the game is just not fun.
And other games are fun.
Solution, I'll play other games.
Thing is I would really love to like playing Destiny again seriously, but these small cuts in enjoyement for the sake of "balance" are a bit too much.
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2 通の返信Aside from solo lost sectors bungie likely expects you to coordinate with your fire team. One player doesn't have to be able to cover everything the mission throws at you. There's a reason most things in this game comes in threes.
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2 通の返信Let’s dissect this argument: “We have 3 slots for elements in our loadouts so match game makes you use all of them.” - There are very few strikes or other endgame content that requires all 3 burns. Regardless a fireteam of 3 can easily specialize in one element with a backup element. “Champions make you use certain weapons and doesn't have support to all 3 pieces of loadout elements.” - Again, 95% of content only has 2 kinds of champions. This week’s nightfall was the only time I can recall needing all 3. Regardless, a fire team of 3 can easily coordinate this without comprising a build too much. “I know I could run Arc to cover all 3, but Arc is not my preferred PvE element at all.” - Personal problem “I'm already running a sniper in PvE due to the artifact and me wanting to keep a special weapon but I don't like snipers. So running arc would be a double dip in me using things I don't want and going even deeper in my preferences. And if I were to run Striker I wouldn't be able to use my current 2 favourite Heavy Weapons, I would have to use Falling Guillotine, thing is I don't like it either even if it's one of the best Heavies.” - Again personal problem. You don’t need a special weapon. Double dipping isn’t an issue if you coordinate fireteams. Also, realistically you shouldn’t be able to just use one specific play style to run through the entire game. No game should be like that. “So essentially this season to use one thing I do like I would sacrifice all other slots to gimp my enjoyement.” - Absolutely not true. Only solo content which is the legendary lost sectors require specific builds. “So I can't play Commander this season, sure I'll play Siegebreaker it's even stronger. The new Primary Exotic is Solar so I can't run that then even if it counters Champions.” - Why can’t you play commander? Why can’t you run the new exotic? You’re proposing issues with no substance behind the argument. “Like the problem is not that I can't play Striker, it used to be my main element when I started to play Destiny, but these systems are so restrictive that forcing me to use 3 out of 4 slots of things I don't want to is not fun.” - Do you play Pokémon with one Pokémon? Because it’s kind of difficult to beat someone with only charizard. “So essentially the game is being designed not to offer what looter shooters are about, finding your style, playing your way so essentially the game is just not fun.” - Looter shooters are about getting loot and using that loot. Not Bungie’s fault that you only want to use 3 out of the hundreds of pieces of loot put in the game. “And other games are fun. Solution, I'll play other games.” - Probably the only thing I agree with on this post “Thing is I would really love to like playing Destiny again seriously, but these small cuts in enjoyement for the sake of "balance" are a bit too much.” - What you just stated isn’t balance. It’s difficultly. You know how easy endgame content would be if I didn’t have to worry about champions and shields? I could walk in with a sword the entire strike or whatever and go to town. Modifiers and champions make it so where you have to devise a strategy. You also don’t have to match game until legend or higher which equates to hard or higher. It’s supposed to be tough. All in all, you’ve already expressed you don’t want to coordinate with your team and rather would compromise yourself to carry all the weight. That’s not how the game was designed, and because you’re playing it this way doesn’t validate your argument. You can reply to this but no longer reading them.
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1 返信You're going in with a fireteam...its not that hard to coordinate burns, which you still leave you the option to run the burn you prefer. The last 2 weeks you've only needed void anyway. What loadout are you trying to run?
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3 通の返信don't see how this is a problem you can deal with both shielded enemies and champions. it just makes you think so no issues
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1 返信TheEliteKing375により編集済み: 2/28/2021 4:08:06 PMOr how about Iron, match game, champions! I love the challenge stop crying about it! Pardon me level your light level up then you shouldn’t have no problems!
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1 返信I wanted to use my sniper during the heroic prestige boss fight, but it was too cramped downstairs so I switched to a fusion. Should I be angry at bungie for not giving me more room to use my preferred loadout? You're making the same argument.
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Even though Sniper can destroy a Anti - Barrier’s Shield in one shot, it’s Mod costing 6 Mod Slots is a real killer for Builds for Mod layouts in your Gauntlet unless that Armor Piece have god like Stats already. With CWL and Warmind Builds being a thing in PvE, the Mods that you use already plus the two Mods you need to stun two Champions can already use up enough Mod Slots you have for stunning Barrier Champions with a Sniper Rifle, and definitely with a Sword for Overloads.
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1 返信When going into end game activities you use what gets the job done while coordinating elements and mods with teammates to ensure success.
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4 通の返信Well this is only in NF, and Presage exotic quest. If you want to solo them you are forced to special loadouts thats true... But even having just one more person can make things easier. As I said to my friend during the exotic master quest "I rather fight against 10 overload champ then a timer". Outside of NF you can literally use anything you want even all white gear. What weapons you like? You can run witherhoe, any primary energy, and an lmg both with the right element against shields.
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3 通の返信This is part of why sunsetting was bad. We have all these things that require specific loadouts like the rigid champion mods that require specific weapons and modifiers like match game combined with the variety of champions and enemy shield types in certain activities and we have a sort of recipe for disaster. The champion mods need to be less rigid. I think that’s the best solution.
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1 返信Big Kahunaにより編集済み: 2/27/2021 7:18:38 PMPart of the problem is Bungie limiting what weapons can have barrier, etc. I dont want to use an SMG or sniper. The artifact is really poorly done this season. REALLY.
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2 通の返信But isn't that the whole idea of the game? To use all means at our disposal to overcome the most challenging enemies? I would find the game very boring in general if I could complete everything from daily bounties to raids using one load out. At least you've admitted that Destiny is probably not your type of game.
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2 通の返信Use borealis exotic sniper with sniper anti barrier mod, problem solved, you're welcome
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1 返信Why is arc your least favorite pve element? They're all the same to me, it's just rock paper scissors so to speak.
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3 通の返信They need to do the complete opposite of this. Give elemental shields to overload and unstoppable.
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4 通の返信Really? Is it really so difficult to deal with this "problem" so that you rather want it to be removed? I mean really?