I like to be challenged in the endgame. But more importantly, I like to HAVE FUN in the endgame. Currently, the only thing that I would necessarily consider “endgame” is master level content or trials. I just don’t consider either of those fun. Elimination style pvp isn’t fun for me (but then again, neither is clash). I’m more of a lover of wacky objective modes, which is why I play my pvp on other games mostly. I’ve never found entertainment in playing a “harder version” of something I’ve already played. It’s just not a fun concept for me. The only reason I’ve ever played a master level piece of content is to get a piece of loot I wanted. LOOT. That’s what is driving my purpose for playing right now, not a desire to have fun. There honestly isn’t anything fun beyond loot and power grind (yes, I do enjoy grinding up my power level). I believe there is an easy solution for both of these, and unfortunately it’s going to get a lot of backlash from pve AND pvp players on the forums. I suggest an area like the “dark zone” from The Division. Yes, crucible is unbalanced. Yes, there will be griefers. Yes, people will form fireteams and pick on anyone trying to step foot in the zone. But that’s the nature of the beast. THAT is endgame. It would give us a TRUE purpose to optimize our builds. It would give us that content we crave in order to push to be as good as we can be. Otherwise, I have no real reason or desire to optimize my build because content is either too easy or not fun. Think about it.