If anything, I should be complaining about what I get compared to free to play.

F2P is nothing more than a taste test through quickplay activities and bounties to see if you want to buy the expansions and actually play. Want seasonal content? Buy the season. Want Beyond Light activities? Buy Beyond Light. They shouldn't pander anymore to the F2P crowd than they already have, and that's too much. Personally, I don't think F2P should even have access to Crucible either, and I think F2P was a mistake overall, but here we are.

Lol this is too funny, a free loading F2P player complaining about content they didn’t even pay for. Seriously you can’t make this crap up.

you get what you pay for ......

So I'm going to address a few of the most common comments I saw. One, I do pay. I have bought a season pass every season since Season of the Dawn excluding Season of the Arrival due to be being salty after Season of the Worthy. And I'm not a new player, I have been playing since before D2 came to steam (between Forsaken and Shadowkeep) with a total of over 800 hours of playtime on Steam. What I was trying to get at is that D2 is NOT a F2P anymore, all the content F2P could do outside of Stricks, Crucible, and Gambit has been removed and what's left is limited by the paywalls. Two, The argument of spending $10 (or ~8 Pounds) every 13 weeks is not what I'm talking about. Bungie keeps claiming that D2 is a healthy F2P environment when it clearly is not. The argument is not giving F2P players everything, the argument is why do we need to buy a pass every season? If I bought Beyond Light for $60, then why do I need to buy $10 (~8 Pounds) every 13 weeks for basic PVE activities and legendary loot pools? Including all four seasons, that's a total of ~110 a year not including people spending money on silver for a F2P game. As a veteran player, I am simply saying that the Bungies F2P module is nothing short of a lie. I have high hopes for this season with its new loot, the new PVE activities, the two new exotics, the new challenge system, etc... But only as a paying player as I see no reason for 99.99% of seasonal content being locked behind a paywall for players who bought Beyond Light for full price. Three, the fact that F2P gets access to Trials and high-level PVP activities is not a good thing and part of the problem. It is the prime reason for cheating in D2 and I fully agree that Trials, Iron Banner, and Ranked PVP should be locked out for F2P, or that Bungie starts handing out Hardware bands for confirmed cheaters. Four, I don't personally count the "free three strikes" seeing how they were meant to drop with Beyond Light's release along with the return of the Cosmodrome. But due to massive bug issues with the launch and that season 12 was falling way behind, they were pushed to this season which is fine. They just don't count as free content for this season seeing how it's a late release. Look I understand that it cost money to make new content, but when Bungie starts removing free elements that have been free in every season before it that's where I start to draw the line. What I am doing is calling out Bungie for their almost non-stop hollow promise of F2P getting fewer paywalls when that is clearly not true. It's getting hard to argue that D2 is not a subscription-based game seeing how more and more content is being locked behind a paywall every 13 weeks.

Buy the season pass then

I think free to play should be seen as an extended demo. It’s meant to give players a taste of what destiny is about and has to offer. If you like it then purchasing the dlc and seasons are very good value for money. I think Bungie already offer a great free to play experience and no changes need to be made.

So let nme get this straight. You don't want to pay for the content and are complaining that they aren't catering to you? Bahahahaha, good one

What do you get? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO Maybe go get a clue.

[quote]So I am more than a little annoyed with how Season of the Chosen has been set up so far for f2p (Free to Play) players. Let's just take a look at what Season 13 has to offer. [u]Battlegrounds[/u] - A new PVE activity that is not available for f2p players unless it is part of a storyline quest which none are available at this time. Side note, the War table bounties are not available for f2p players either so the H.E.L.M is pretty much useless. [u]New Armor, Weapons, and Umbral Engram[/u] - As usual, this season brought some new armor along with reviving some old weapons archetypes such as linear fusion and bows, sadly for f2p a massive amount of that loot is not available outside of storyline quest or through the pretty low drop rates of the umbral engram. Which for some reason still drop loot from the Season of Arrival making it more difficult to get this season's loot (whether this is good or bad depends on your view). [u]New Season Pass Systeam[/u] - The Season 13 pass has been altered to be as anti-f2p as possible. This time around there are no small XP boots to help level up faster so leveling up is super slow for the average player, nor is there any good loot after level 26 outside of the exotic bow at level 35 as everything after that is either bright dust or a seasonal engram. (I don't count the exotic cipher seeing how a f2p player can get one once a week from Xur for the same amount of effort) [u]Ticuu's Divination Exotic Bow [/u] - Nothing changed since this is the season exotic. Anyone can get it either get it though leveling up or by buying the pass to get it early so all good here. [u]Dead Man's Tale Exotic Scout Riffle[/u] - A new soft drop exotic that is not available to f2p players even though they can pick up the quest in Nightfall: The Ordeal The Arms Dealer without the pass. If you don't have the pass and still pick it up the quest will be available from Zavala if you decided to buy the pass later on in the season. Side note this exotic is similar to Hawkmoon and has a random roll system (something I and many others are not a fan of). And at this time that's about it. Look I know it's early to be complaining but these first few weeks are setting a bad president. Pretty much every aspect of this season is locked behind a paywall, something Bungie has been ranting about not wanting to do since before Beyond Light dropped. And yet here we are. From where I sit every part of this season is locked behind the season pass. From the war table bounties to the battleground activities, to the almost stupidly low loot drop with limited availability for f2p players. It's not hard to claim that this is Bungie's most paywall season yet as there is quite literally nothing a f2p player can do outside the typical activities such as Crucible, Gambit, and Vanguard Strciks. So I ask again, what will free-to-play players be able to do this season other than the same activities they could have done before this season?[/quote] I mean. Yeah? I'm failing to see your point. You're bitter cuz you didn't pay and now you don't get all the same new stuff. Which is how it should be. The whole game isn't f2p, go back and look at the advertising for New Light or whatever it was billed as. It was access to the areas and the core activities only. It was made very very very clear to everyone that the f2p people would only get access to the core things and if they wanted extra then they would have to cough up. Pay up or shut up basically. Also, dude it's like £8 every 13 weeks. You could take a walk every day and pick up every bit of change from the floor and make that.

You get some strikes and some new loot to chase (strike loot, Crucible loot and gambit loot) plus you have access to trials as well. What exactly were you hoping your $0 would get you access to?

Please don’t take this the wrong way... Next time you want a snack at a convenience store, think “if I don’t buy this now, or even the next two times I get a snack craving, I’ll have the $10 to buy the season”... and wallah... you’ll have the season. You can replace ‘snack purchase’ with basically any purchase of a fast food meal (maybe twice if you go value menu at Taco Bell). The season is cheap.

Well there should have never been a f2p.

Delete the game and player a better game.

I'm no stranger to budgeting, but is $10 that difficult to scrape up?

I mean obviously people who payed for the game and season pass are gonna get more that a free to play player. If anything free to play people should be locked out of more like end game activities and harder PvP stuff like trials

Ehhh you get what ya pay for and this game has become pay to win with stasis and some of the exotics. I’m free to play and just like to collect the guns I can and experience how horrible the game is so I can accurately make fun of it and oooohhhh boy is there a lot to make fun of. Lol

This game shouldn't be f2p. I'm glad you get nothing.

Free to play players can cheat in crucible. Seems like that’s all F2P accounts are good for anyway.

You get 3 free strikes, a bunch of loot and and 4 exotics. No reason you should be complaining. If you want more, you can pay up.

F2P was the start of the downward spiral for the Destiny franchise. Bungie wants players like you to purchase silver and buy the content you currently cannot access. You’re the future of the game. Many veterans are leaving because of the current Game Direction so it’s up to noobs to increase the player numbers. Obviously when the F2P starts to complain then Bungie definitely have bigger issues with the game then what they figured.