Yep they are but at the same time we are filling that grave up with dirt. We are bailing them out. We sit here on a forum and complain about how bungie is failing us but in the same breath we are playing their game hours on end. They are digging their own grave and we are going to be buried with them.

The "casuals will get bored" isn't possible since by being casual it means there playing but not alot. All these "content creators" didn't make content they just play a game and record there stuff. Sorry but any streamer that think's playing one game is gonna last them forever is kidding themselves. If you've seen one raid video you've seen them all man. There's plenty of things to do in this game but because they no life the game they run it so early they wanna complain there's nothing to do.

Why do people feel the need to be so dramatic in these posts?

Nah, some of us still enjoy the game.😊

I’ll be playing. 😎🎮 Next season looks dope.

No new game mode? So what is battlegrounds?

They must be as slow digging their own grave as they are making meaningful changes. If this forum is to be believed, Bungie have been digging their own grave for years now. Yet the game continues to make shedloads of cash for them. Either people hate the game and still pay for it (stupidity) or you are in the minority regarding the game's state.

Same post, different day. I've been seeing posts about them digging their own grave for like 5 years. Must be a deep grave.

Bungie hears you and they're laughing at you.

I try to play this like once a week and everytime I turn it off pretty quickly.. its just not fun anymore.. SAME GRIND OVER AND OVER.. the things that were fun like Managerie, D1 activities etc are all gone

You would think they would be digging their own grave, but there are too many addicts and fanboys will will buy anything Bungie puts out. Low expectation gamers are Bungie's bread and butter.

Must be a pretty big grave, they’ve been doing that since launch of D1.

With all my own complaints about d2, it’s still better than 90% of other games that ever come out.

QuackHab You make some valid points and I agree that ever verse should be removed from this game. But Whether we wanted it or not, we’ve stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let’s get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta’aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

They’ve been doing that since the announcement of destiny

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Ok first I’m going to tell you if you want a competitive game go play overwatch or cod or something. This game was never suppose to be a pvp competitive game in the first place it just became that because bungie was trying to compete with other developers and losing. Ok the game was suppose to be a casual story drive rpg with online co-op and a decent enough pvp to keep players entertained. But somewhere in the development the original idea was scraped and half ass redone before it was launch and we got what we got for 6 or so years now. Destiny 1 was horrible and got worse over time pandering to the wrong crowd. Destiny 2 which in all reality is destiny 1.5 did right by starting over and trying to go a different route but then reverted back to destiny 1 and has gotten worse as time went on because bungie pandered and listened to the wrong people again. So if you playing because of the pvp then your playing the wrong game. Pvp doesn’t work with rpg elements mixed in. It works in different game when designed correctly and doesn’t have so many variables and factors to contend with. In other words weapons or abilities being stronger or broken than others is what this game is dealing with and bungie joy knowing how to balance any of next to the stupid hybrid pve pvp not separated sandboxes is what doomed the game. It was a neat idea. But failed. The season crap came from fortune,pubg, and rainbow six siege crap that bungie and so many other developers tried to do without realizing it wouldn’t work as well as they though it would. Having dlc and game updates was better than this season crap. As for your problem with casual players sorry to tell you casual players are what keep games going. Youtubers and streamers always move on to other games because they move on to what is popular and guess what destiny isn’t main stream popular and never will because of bungie. As for free players yea you got me because they should get little to no experience. They should get a beta treatment of quickplay a comp and one strike and that’s it. Not access to the game to a certain point.