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オリジナルの投稿元: Shatterdive still too powerful
1/20/2021 1:34:42 PM
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Look, i get your angry. But it isn’t shatterdive anymore, it’s glacier nade. If you just nerf shatterdive and not glaciernade, you replace the shatterdive problem with the cryoclasm problem.
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  • Glacier nade is no way near as op on warlock or even titan as on hunter. Objectively, because shatterdive combos right into throwing the nade and titans or warlocks have almost no guarantee of killing with it if they don't freeze their targets.

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  • I know that. But I think that’s it’s part of the conundrum. So let me say this, I don’t think S and S is as good as winters wrath or behemoth. I can list problems with it if you want. But it’s not as good as the other supers. The hunter melee isn’t as good as the other classes. The aspects for each class are pretty close. Hunters Stasis needs something to keep up with the other classes. They aren’t bad, they just aren’t as good as the other classes Without shatterdive. Titans are the same, but there’s has better movement, great for rushdown, and have no recovery frames. Warlocks can freeze them mid-air. The best counter for it is jumping, which is why top tree dawnblade is the best counter for stasis at the moment.

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  • I agree on the supers but hunter melee is definitely better than titans melee and maybe a little worse than warlock, just because the slow duration can last insanely long with the fragment equipped and can be bounced around walls. When you have 2 melee charges you can actually freeze someone without ever seeing them and then just ape them, shoot them once and they're dead, but often one melee hit is enough to push and basically get a free kill. It also doesn't help that you can throw both shurikens in an instant almost.

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  • True. But the titan punch has great utility for getting out of S and S, duskfield nade, that kind off movement even whiled slowed is powerful. While what your saying about melee is true, having too melee charges is pretty rare, the bouncing is inconsistent though sometimes I bounce is on someone’s feet and it just goes the opposite direction, other times it bounces and hits someone I can’t even see. So I guess they are tied. But my point still stands that needing shatterdive anymore isn’t the game plan, it’s just needing glacier nade (which they did). I’m going to be away at school all week though, so I can’t play.

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